[Jacob-list] Sold Jacobs returning!

[Joseph Laughlin]

I have taken back 4 sheep (Jacob and otherwise). I paid for one.  I try to sell my stock to farms that have standards similar to mine regarding care and testing of their animals; nevertheless, I quarantine them and test them for OPP before allowing them to rejoin the flock. The returns were triggered by personal problems of the owner, not because of the animal.  I take them back because I know their breeding - mine- and the quality of the animal and because I think I can use them. I personally have a hard time letting a quality animal go to the butcher or auction because of a people problem if I can give it a home or find it a home.

On another note, we try to halter break all of our sheep, rams and ewes.  (If they aren't halter broke it's our fault because we just ran out of time to work with them!) It makes it much more easy to handle them and to move them. I can easily move several sheep with one hand holding their leashes if they are halter broke. This is especially helpful at shows and fairs, at lambing time, etc. Our Jacob ram does not like to be pulled or pushed anywhere but put him on a leash and he will follow you peacefully anywhere! 

With regard to genetic testing for scrapie resistance, so far we tested the three adult rams we had on the premises.  The two rare breeds (Jacob and Horned Dorset) are RR.  The Border Leicester-Corriedale x is QR. We plan to test more of the flock this fall when the state vet draws blood for the annual OPP test and use the results when deciding on breeding.
Jo Ann
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Meg Steensland<mailto:beegal7 at yahoo.com> 
  To: Betty Berlenbach<mailto:lambfarm at sover.net> ; Jacob List<mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com> 
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Sold Jacobs returning!


  I plan to refund her the full price for the Jacobs and only $50 for the X-pair as my best time to place cross animals is at the fairs/to kids/in a drawing and fairs are over with.   Or she can view it as $50 for each cross and a $50 loss on the 4 pure Jacobs.  

  I plan to quarantine the sheep as I just recently spoke to a woman that had to take back animals someone did not care for properly/did not finish paying for and she ended up bringing coccidiosis back to her farm near Martin's Ferry OH.

  One of the dams is my best sheep from 2005-so, I don't mind taking her back - I too try to place best sheep in situations where they can be shown (she trains and demos sheep dogs) and others can enjoy them and spread the word. I also used this best (purple ribbon) sheep in a parade and at 2 petting zoos in 2005, so she is people friendly and leads well.

  The other adult female is not as showy, but quiet and still people friendly.  Don't know what their ewe lambs are like yet except both sired by a 2H lilac that is destined to join Marie's flock in NY Sep 30.




   
  Betty Berlenbach <lambfarm at sover.net> wrote:
    are you having to pay for them?  if noy, i'd take them back and probably sev\nd them to auction.  i don't BUY back stock.  three years ago syock just wouldn't measure up to today;\'s flock...i expect to improve every year.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Meg Steensland<mailto:beegal7 at yahoo.com> 
      To: Jacob List<mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com> 
      Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:36 PM
      Subject: [Jacob-list] Sold Jacobs returning!


      Last March I sold a group of 8 sheep to a woman that wanted to use them to show off her trained dogs.  She called tonight and reported she is getting a divorce, selling the farm and moving back to WY - can I take the sheep back?

      Of course!  She did place two, so it is just 6 coming back and I still have many 2007 and older ewes to place!  One of the ewes coming back is really special as she was Res. Breed CH as a lamb in 2005, she did a parade and a benefit and is one high-stepping proud-walking ewe.She is returning with her 2007 ewe lamb sired by a lilac ram  Another Jacob is a quieter, friendly one also with her ewe lamb by the lilac guy (lamb was born after dam left here).  So, I suddenly have 6 more ewes than I had planned for and would be happy to place a few of these or other 2005-2007 ewes (or older ones if you truly want same).  I am in OH.  I will be taking two sheep to exhibit at the Yellow Springs A Wool Gathering as we usually do, tomorrow.

      If you are near Ithaca NY - Marie (on this list) may have room to bring back a ewe or two for you - she will be here last weekend in Sept to fetch a ram and a ewe for her flock.

      General question - when someone wants to bring back a Jacob - automatic yes?  Depends on how long or circumstances?   Does this happen to you?

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