[Jacob-list] AGM

[Robert May]

Peg...The JSBA has never "said" that the Jacob Show at
the New Jersey State Fair was is not "important".  The
Board has never addressed/discussed this issue.  The
organization is dedicated to maintaining a registry
and preserving the Jacob Breed--and takes no position
on "showing" Jacobs.

While some breeders believe (and I am one of them)
that "showing" our Jacobs is a way to promote the
breed to potential shepherds, if the membership were
polled on this issue (and there is no reason to do so)
there might very well be more JSBA members who don't
want to show their Jacobs.

For those of us who do show...we realize that often,
the Judges will place the "larger" Jacobs at the top
of the class...which can give a false impression  to
the public that "bigger is better".  And...there is a
fear that breeders could overlook the great many other
qualities that Jacobs possess...and go for "size"
above all else.

I too have brought more than my share of Jacobs to the
same shows that you have gone to.  Over 20 to
Maryland, at least 8-10 to the New Jersey State Fair;
18 to the Garden State Sheep & Fiber Festival; and
10-12 to the South Jersey Sheep & Wool Festival.

You've drawn a false conclusion that: by having a
conflict with the dates of the 2007 JSBA AGM and the
NJ State Fair...that the JSBA has, somehow, decided
that the NJ Jacob show is not important.  IT's wrong
for you to assume that, and it's just not true.

Here's an idea, Peg...the New Jersey State Fair runs
10 days, or so.  What about checking with CeCe to see
if a Jacob show could be held on the second weekend? 
If this isn't possible, I repeat my offer to provide
you with contact information of other Jacob breeders
who attended last year's Garden State Sheep & Fiber
Festival (a record no. of Jacobs/breeders) to see if
some of them might want to attend the Sussex County
event.

Regards,

Bob May
JSBA President
--- Marguerite Van Beek <pegvanbeek at msn.com> wrote:


> Linda

> 

> You are right, not all people show their sheep.  It

> is a lot of hard work, money and time to do so. 

> Sometimes, I am requested to bring more than my fair

> share just to fill a class at MSWF double the

> required amount of 7.  It is by no means a picnic

> preparing for a show   but I do love to show mine. 

> They (Jacob)  might not like it but I do it is fun

> (at times).

> Plus it gives me a chance to see other Jacob

> breeders that I wouldn't get a chance to see.   No

> matter I am sure with Joan's assistance we can get

> the required amount or a least close to it for the

> NJ State Fair.   I am just surprised that after

> getting the Fair to hold this class the JSBA decides

> that it is not important.  

> 

> I never implied that the small breeder who doesn't

> show sheep is of no importance and no,  sheep shows

> are not the only way to promote the breed.  At this

> show my family not only shows Jacobs but puts

> together a display with the JSBA and JSC brochures,

> information, and sheep for the Heritage Tent all

> week long, 215,000 people attend the fair each year

> and a good portion of them love to see the Jacob

> Sheep.    

> 

> No Linda, I know  you will not miss me, you really

> don't know me,  I just a small insignificant breeder

> in NW New Jersey that opinions or concerns  aren't

> important to the JSBA I am just one of many.   

> 

> And no I am not leaving the JSBA I just might

> rethink my priorities when it comes to their support

> I might have too many conflicts in the near future.

> 

> Peggy

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>   ----- Original Message ----- 

>   From: Linda<mailto:patchworkfibers at alltel.net> 

>   To: Marguerite Van Beek<mailto:pegvanbeek at msn.com>

> ; jacob-list<mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com> ;

> Robert May<mailto:newjerseyjacobs at yahoo.com> 

>   Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:05 PM

>   Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] AGM

> 

> 

>   Jacob Sheep are not just show sheep and there are

> alot of breeders that don't give a fig about shows. 

> I'm excited that so many Jacob owners that only have

> a few Jacobs and never show will be attending our

> AGM.  It's not all about showing.  It's also about

> breeders that just love Jacob Sheep.  It's just as

> important to promote Jacob Sheep to the breeder that

> doesn't show, doesn't care about fleece, doesn't

> care about selling lambs, and just gets a kick out

> of seeing their sheep.

> 

>   Don't think that these breeders are less important

> than those that show.  And don't think that sheep

> shows are the only way to promote our breed. 

> 

>   I hope you are not saying that you will leave JSBA

> because our AGM conflicts with your show??  I'll

> miss you.

> 

>   Linda

> 

> 

>    

>  

>

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>   Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun

> Yarn

> 

> 

> 

>   > Linda

>   >

>   > Your right it really doesn't affect the whole,

> only one part.  I am

>   > just surprised.   I thought this was important

> to JSBA and its

>   > members in the surrounding area but I guess not.

>  It's done and I

>   > am done.

>   >

>   > Peggy

>   >> ----- Original Message -----

>   >> From: Linda

>   >> To: Marguerite Van Beek ; jacob-list ; Robert

> May Sent: Thursday,

>   >> February 22, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re:

> [Jacob-list] AGM

>   >>

>   >>

>   >> Peggy,

>   >>

>   >> Do you have any idea of the events and

> happenings that would

>   >> conflict with ANY date we picked?  There were

> limited dates open

>   >> for the facility.  We wanted a later AGM so

> that more breeders

>   >> would have the opportunity to bring lambs.  I

> picked the date. I

>   >> had no idea of the conflict with the NJ fair at

> that time.  Some

>   >> people have communicated they are pleased with

> the new date as

>   >> last year's date conflicted with other events. 

> I am sorry this

>   >> is a conflict for you and I will sure miss

> seeing you at the AGM.

>   >>  

>   >>

>   >> Linda

>   >>

>   >> www.patchworkfibers.com

>   >> Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits,

> Handspun Yarn

>   >>

>   >>

>   >>> Bob

>   >>>

>   >>> I don't understand why the AGM is so late.  My

> question would

>   >>> be was there other conflicts in June and July

> that would push

>   >>> this off into August. 

>   >>>

>   >>> CeCe and their staff have gone out of their

> way to have a Jacob

>   >>> Class when other fairs in the area could care

> less. They and

>   >>> everyone who attends (public) really look

> forward in seeing our

>   >>> breed.  They even have been trying to obtain

> better  judges for

>   >>> wool breeds not just meat breeds because they

> really want to

>   >>> promote the wool sheep.  You know this.  And

> they pay top

>   >>> premiums and pay the day you leave.  Now what

> fair have you

>   >>> attended that does that. 

>   >>>

>   >>> If we lose the class we lose it.  I will enter

> my flock and if

>   >>> it does go so be it.  I am sad and

> disappointed with the whole

>   >>> JSBA.

>   >>>

>   >>> I wish you all the best.

>   >>>

>   >>> Peggy

>   >>>

>   >>>

>   >>>> ----- Original Message -----

>   >>>> From: Robert May

>   >>>> To: Marguerite Van Beek ; jacob-list

>   >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:29 PM

>   >>>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] AGM

>   >>>>

>   >>>>

>   >>>> Hello Peg, et als...

>   >>>>

>   >>>> Yes, the 2007 JSBA AGM will be the first

> weekend in August

>   >>>> this year...and, yes, it will conflictw ith

> anything else

>   >>>> that might be scheduled for the first weekend

> in August--

>   >>>> including the NJ State Fair. Unfortunately,

> Peg, the conflict

>   >>>> couldn't be avoided. We did the best that we

> could in picking

>   >>>> a date for the 2007 JSBA AGM.

>   >>>>

>   >>>> As you may recall, we had a record number of

> Jacobs and Jacob

>   >>>> Breeders attend the Garden State Sheep &

> Fiber Festival last

>   >>>> September.  Some of those

>   >>>> individuals, although members of JSBA, aren't

> likely going to

>   >>>> attend the 2007 AGM.  If those individuals

> are made aware of

>   >>>> the Jacob Show at the Garden State

> Fair...they might want to

>   >>>> participate.  Or, we can let CeCe know of the

> conflicting

>   >>>> dates this year, and not plan for a Jacob

> Show at that event

>   >>>> this year.

> 

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