[Jacob-list] ram face shield

[Victoria da Roza]

We got one of those but if you have a 4 horned ram
they take a lot of adjustment.  The older the ram, the
more difficult it is to get on.  Also our ram was very
clever and learned how to look sideways and still aim
toward everything accurately.  He is now up on the
wall in the livingroom.  Our solution was to focus on
a ram that came from a calm line and that solved the
problem.   We did notice recently as the days get
shorter and he is now 2, he is a little more rammy but
nothing like the first ram who was agressive from 4
months on.  If the ram is not as perfect as possible
it would never get near my girls and especially if it
has a destructive tendency.  We are both handicapped
and I will not mess with an agressive sheep or one
that wants to dismantle anything.  It was too hard to
build what we have.  If you want to keep him I agree
,keep him as a wether but I understand that is really
a trauma on an adult ram to be chopped. Victoria
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> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:16:48 EDT

> From: Gotothewhip at aol.com

> Subject: [Jacob-list] Destructive ram

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> Hi all.. I thought raising rams was a no-biggie

> until this fella came  along! 

>  All my boys co-mingle out of breeding season.. But

> not this fella..  I took 

> him in as he needed a home.  He has managed to bang

> up so much of my  place 

> I'm pretty disgusted with him.

>  

> We are still building our place, and making our

> breeding pens.....My barn  

> was set up as a horse show barn.....

>  

> He has figured out that if he slams his head into my

> pretty sliding doors,  

> hard enough, and often enough, he can actually BEND

> the channel that keeps it 

> in  place, and he and his little girlfriend can

> escape.....(She came with him)

>  

> So we put up a pipe gate in front of the slider to

> take the brunt of his  

> abuse.  that seems to be working well FOR NOW.

>  

> This weekend we are building him a 1/4 acre pen.....

> Woven wire, T posts  

> wood corner braces.... He has a small shelter in

> there (7x12) 

>  

> I think.. knowing this guy is destructive.. putting

> an eye level hot wire  

> might be a good plan.... and giving him a re-shear

> so he will get more of a zap  

> from the fence....

>  

> Does this sound reasonable?

>  

> I don't know what we will do with him after breeding

> season, as I cant deal  

> with this!  He is a sweet honey of a fella but I

> don't know if a bullpen  

> would hold him!

> 

> 

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> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT)

> From: JACI SIEHL <wedohoney at sbcglobal.net>

> Subject: [Jacob-list] Meat Sheep Judges (again)

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> Good news, bad news......I had the only Jacob sheep

> at a recent show (actually the only wool-type

> sheep).  The first thing the judge said to me was

> that he recognized them, but did not know anything

> about them.  So my guys all placed near or at the

> bottom against Dorset, hamps, cheviot, etc.  But he

> did make some positive comments to me and to the

> audience as he announced the winners.  He also told

> me that if he had known there were Jacob in the show

> he would have looked them up so he would be

> prepared.  He also stated that he was always

> interested in seeing different breeds in the shows

> because that helps keep the interest for the general

> public.

>    

>   I thanked the judge for his honesty and for his

> remarks.  I also let him know that he will be seeing

> my sheep at a lot more shows and that I am getting

> other breeders (Shetland, Wensleydales, etc)

> involved so we may soon need just a wool division.

>    

>   I had asked the fair staff a week ago if the

> judges knew what breeds were being shown because

> most judges aren't familiar with my breed.  Their

> reply was, "yes, of course.  Our judges are fully

> prepared to judge all the sheep that will be in the

> shows".  Obviously they didn't know what they were

> talking about.

>    

>   Even though this year was not what I hoped it

> would be, I am really looking forward to next year

> and will show any sheep I can (even those that I

> know aren't top notch), just to get the exposure.

> And I am showing at the California State Fair next

> week in the Heritage Breed.  This will be the first

> time I'll be against other similar sheep and

> probably with a knowledgeable judge - this will be

> very interesting and educational, I'm sure.

>    

>   I have had inquiries for locker lambs, fleeces,

> and next year's lambs while at the show.  I know I

> won't hear from most people, but at least we are

> being noticed.

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> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT)

> From: JACI SIEHL <wedohoney at sbcglobal.net>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Destructive ram

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> I have heard great things about a leather shield

> that goes int he front of their face.  I saw them in

> a supply catalog and is supposed to block their

> forward vision so they don't ram things (kind of the

> reverse for blinders on horses).  It might be worth

> a try - has anyone else used these?  

> 

> Gotothewhip at aol.com wrote:      Hi all.. I thought

> raising rams was a no-biggie until this fella came

> along!  All my boys co-mingle out of breeding

> season.. But not this fella.. I took him in as he

> needed a home.  He has managed to bang up so much of

> my place I'm pretty disgusted with him.

>    

>   We are still building our place, and making our

> breeding pens.....My barn was set up as a horse show

> barn.....

>    

>   He has figured out that if he slams his head into

> my pretty sliding doors, hard enough, and often

> enough, he can actually BEND the channel that keeps

> it in place, and he and his little girlfriend can

> escape.....(She came with him)

>    

>   So we put up a pipe gate in front of the slider to

> take the brunt of his abuse.  that seems to be

> working well FOR NOW.

>    

>   This weekend we are building him a 1/4 acre

> pen..... Woven wire, T posts wood corner braces....

> He has a small shelter in there (7x12) 

>    

>   I think.. knowing this guy is destructive..

> putting an eye level hot wire might be a good

> plan.... and giving him a re-shear so he will get

> more of a zap from the fence....

>    

>   Does this sound reasonable?

>    

>   I don't know what we will do with him after

> breeding season, as I cant deal with this!  He is a

> sweet 

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Victoria
Castle Rock Farm
Jacob Sheep & Nigerian Dwarf Goats
www.castlerockfarm.net


       
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