[Jacob-list] Re: Jacob-list digest, Vol 2 #189 - 1 msg
Gary and Nancy Claver
sheepspots at digitex.net
Sat Feb 19 12:00:01 EST 2005
I have , somehow, been omitted from the list and would really love to be
back on. Thanks.
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> 1. Re: Butcher Weights (Jacobflock at aol.com)
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> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:06:54 EDT
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Butcher Weights
> To: patchworkfibers at alltel.net, BJ.Kraght at wwireless.com,
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> In a message dated 7/24/2004 8:10:57 PM Central Standard Time,
> patchworkfibers at alltel.net writes:
>
> > My cut and wrap fees are by carcass
> > weight, which is determined by a skinned, beheaded, gutted carcass. Not
the
> > same as what I take home.
>
> I know rules of thumb are just that but I found the following helpful.
The
> dressed carcass (the usual cuts for lamb) comes out about 50% of live
weight.
> Skull and horns (depending on age and number) about 18%, skin/pelt about
12%,
> intestines including contents 10%, tail/legs/hooves 5%, blood 5%.
>
> One suggestion for some tender cuts is to ask for as long a hang time as
you
> can get; say 4 or 5 days. Some abbatoires run product thru pretty fast
and
> one way they improve productivity of the cooler asset is to turn its
contents
> over as quickly as possible.
>
> When I get the skull back, I check the bone on the skull that attached the
> head to the first vertebrae to see if the bone is rather evenly shaped.
This is
> an indicator of good "head/spine" alignment or the congenital defect
condylar
> displacia. An uneven shape will be rather apparent. I double check the
bite
> alignment to be sure we kept the sheep with good dentition and culled the
> misaligned bite. Finally, it provides an opportunity to look at the
lateral horns
> of the ewe to be sure they are true horns if there is any doubt.
>
> For those that keep long tails (returned from the butcher) and expect to
> count the sixteen to eighteen caudal vertebrae (Jacob hock length tail), I
was
> disappointed since the first two "fused" caudal vertebrae don't get neatly
> separated at the pelvis and end of the sacral vertebrae. Caudal vertebrae
count is
> now done by xray.
>
> Finally, I can check the hooves for uneven digits and regular growth.
>
> My point is not to wait for the butcher to "look at the sheep" but there
is
> an opportunity to look at the "returns" to confirm the cull/butcher
decision or
> learn something that wasn't obvious before.
>
> Fred Horak
>
>
>
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8:10:5=
> 7 PM Central Standard Time, patchworkfibers at alltel.net writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
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> cass <BR>
> weight, which is determined by a skinned, beheaded, gutted carcass.
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> t the same as what I take home. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> <BR>
> I know rules of thumb are just that but I found the following
helpful. =
> The dressed carcass (the usual cuts for lamb) comes out about 50% of live
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> eight. Skull and horns (depending on age and number) about
18%,=20=
> skin/pelt about 12%, intestines including contents 10%, tail/legs/hooves
5%,=
> blood 5%. <BR>
> <BR>
> One suggestion for some tender cuts is to ask for as long a hang time as
you=
> can get; say 4 or 5 days. Some abbatoires run product thru pretty
fas=
> t and one way they improve productivity of the cooler asset is to turn its
c=
> ontents over as quickly as possible.<BR>
> <BR>
> When I get the skull back, I check the bone on the skull that attached the
h=
> ead to the first vertebrae to see if the bone is rather evenly
shaped. =
> This is an indicator of good "head/spine" alignment or the congenital
defec=
> t condylar displacia. An uneven shape will be rather apparent. I
doubl=
> e check the bite alignment to be sure we kept the sheep with good
dentition=20=
> and culled the misaligned bite. Finally, it provides an opportunity
to=
> look at the lateral horns of the ewe to be sure they are true horns if
ther=
> e is any doubt. <BR>
> <BR>
> For those that keep long tails (returned from the butcher) and expect to
cou=
> nt the sixteen to eighteen caudal vertebrae (Jacob hock length tail), I
was=20=
> disappointed since the first two "fused" caudal vertebrae don't get neatly
s=
> eparated at the pelvis and end of the sacral vertebrae. Caudal
vertebr=
> ae count is now done by xray.<BR>
> <BR>
> Finally, I can check the hooves for uneven digits and regular
growth. =20=
> <BR>
> <BR>
> My point is not to wait for the butcher to "look at the sheep" but there
is=20=
> an opportunity to look at the "returns" to confirm the cull/butcher
decision=
> or learn something that wasn't obvious before.<BR>
> <BR>
> Fred Horak<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
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