[Jacob-list] Re: Jacob-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 17
Marilyn Wallace
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Fri Aug 12 12:50:46 EDT 2005
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> 1. Re: guard dogs/family dogs (Robert May)
> 2. Jacobs for sale (Marguerite Van Beek)
> 3. Guard dogs/ family dogs (ARTHUR PARTRIDGE)
> 4. Re: Guard dogs/ family dogs (Sharon Hill)
> 5. Re: Guard dogs/ family dogs (Linda)
> 6. aspirin? (Kelley Rambo)
> 7. Re: Guard dogs/ family dogs (Debbie Bennett)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:01:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert May <newjerseyjacobs at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] guard dogs/family dogs
> To: SKimbro <sheri at eldoradohoney.com>, jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
> Message-ID: <20050811160117.37120.qmail at web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> THREE YEARS AGO WE PURCHASED A 50-50 AKBASH/MEREMA
> FEMALE PUPPY FROM A BREEDER IN NC. HER NAME IS ABBY.
> WE PURCHASED HER WHILE ATTENDING THE MD SHEEP & WOOL
> FESTIVAL. ABBY'S BEEN WITH OUR FLOCK SINCE WE BROUGHT
> HER HOME. SHE NOW WEIGHS +/- 110 LBS--A BIG WHITE
> DOG, BUT SOMEHOW MANAGES TO KEEP HERSELF "CLEAN".
>
> ABBY KNOWS THAT HER "JOB" IS TO GUARD THE FLOCK, BUT
> SHE HAS A WONDERFUL DISPOSITION WITH OUR FAMILY,
> INCLUDING GRANDAUGHTERS AGES 5 AND 3.
>
> ABBY IS AGGRESSIVE IF OTHER DOGS COME ON OUR PROPERTY,
> BUT NOT SO WITH "HUMANS".
>
> SHE'S BEEN AN ABSOLUTE JOY.
>
> REGARDS,
> BOB MAY
> SWAYZE INN FARM
> HOPE, NJ
>
> --- SKimbro <sheri at eldoradohoney.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This time I'd like to start a discussion about dogs.
>> We are getting a dog but haven't yet decided what
>> breed best fits our needs. I thought I'd poll the
>> group and see what you guys have, what has worked
>> with you and what hasn't.
>>
>> Let me tell you what I have and what I need/want and
>> then let your suggestions fly. I have 2 boys, 10
>> and 8, so young but not little. We have llamas,
>> sheep, goats, chickens and cats. (Retrievers are
>> out, we figured they'd bring us a chicken on the
>> door step daily,,,no thanks.) We've read really
>> good things about the Pyrenees and Anatolians. But
>> we also are considering a German Shepard because we
>> are familiar with the breed and know what to expect.
>> We've also read about the Swiss Mountain dogs
>> "Swissy's",,,,,those sound alot like the other to
>> breeds (pyrs and AS). We want a dog that will guard
>> but will also be a family pet. Is that a realistic
>> expectation?
>>
>> Any thoughts would be great.
>>
>> Sheri Kimbro
>> Ranch Abella
>> Shingle Springs, CA>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:02:39 -0400
> From: "Marguerite Van Beek" <pegvanbeek at msn.com>
> Subject: [Jacob-list] Jacobs for sale
> To: "jacob-list" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
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> I need to get my numbers reduced this fall before winter. I am trying to
> avoid sending them to the livestock market they are really nice Jacob's.
> So please let me know if you are interested in any rams, ewes, lambs.
> Delivery can be arrange within reason.
>
> Peggy Van Beek
> www.ridgecroftfarm.com<http://www.ridgecroftfarm.com/>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:22:33 -0700
> From: "ARTHUR PARTRIDGE" <aztreaz at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Jacob-list] Guard dogs/ family dogs
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> Airedale terriers are great watchdogs, great with kids, and will not hut
> anything that belongs on the farm. They also do not shed. However, they
> are worthless as sheep herders or drivers. Our Airedale went in the sheep
> paddock to check out (and play) with a lamb and got pummeled by the mother
> ewe. He never threatened her and just left very fast. We have all kinds
> of poultry at our place. I got a blue heeler/German shepherd mix to help
> me with the sheep. We have had her for 4 years and she has killed 4
> chickens, 1 duck, and 1 wild rabbit. But that interest is what makes her
> good at driving sheep. She now leaves the geese alone, but she is still
> very bloodthirsty when it comes to chickens. She has to stay in a pen or
> the house for most of the time. Not a great farm dog and I can't trust
> her
> alone outside. Be careful what you get. I know similar farms that have
> black labs and they do not go after poultry. A bird-hunting dog (pointer)
> is not a good choice. That's my 2-cents worth.
> Cathy
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sharon Hill <sharonehill at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Guard dogs/ family dogs
> To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
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> I have had a male Great Pyrennes for 4 1/2 years now.
> (He is neutered.) I have never lost a sheep to a
> predator. He is on guard all the time. He is able to
> leap the shorter fences between the yard and the
> paddocks, but not the higher outside boundary fences.
> So he has the run of most of the farm and the yard
> around the house. He is a big sweetheart to humans
> and other animals. At Easter, little kids from ages
> one on up were hanging their arms around his neck and
> he was completely gentle with them. He weighs about
> 85 pounds, but looks a lot heavier with all that hair.
> This is kind of small for a male pyr, but certainly
> big enough to do the job. He stays nice and trim with
> all his getting up and running around checking out his
> territory.
>
> He has a funny habit of raising the lip on one side of
> his mouth when happy to see people, and it makes it
> look as if he is snarling. This is a good thing when
> strangers come around. They won't go in the fence
> where he is. People who know him, know that he is
> just smiling.
>
> He is one of the nicest dogs I have ever had and I
> have had a lot of dogs. (7 at at the moment). Even
> if the time comes when I have no sheep, I think I will
> always have a Great Pyrennes.
>
> Sharon Hill
>
>
> -ad-- ARTHUR PARTRIDGE <aztreaz at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Airedale terriers are great watchdogs, great with
>> kids, and will not hut
>> anything that belongs on the farm. They also do not
>> shed. However, they
>> are worthless as sheep herders or drivers. Our
>> Airedale went in the sheep
>> paddock to check out (and play) with a lamb and got
>> pummeled by the mother
>> ewe. He never threatened her and just left very
>> fast. We have all kinds
>> of poultry at our place. I got a blue heeler/German
>> shepherd mix to help
>> me with the sheep. We have had her for 4 years and
>> she has killed 4
>> chickens, 1 duck, and 1 wild rabbit. But that
>> interest is what makes her
>> good at driving sheep. She now leaves the geese
>> alone, but she is still
>> very bloodthirsty when it comes to chickens. She
>> has to stay in a pen or
>> the house for most of the time. Not a great farm
>> dog and I can't trust her
>> alone outside. Be careful what you get. I know
>> similar farms that have
>> black labs and they do not go after poultry. A
>> bird-hunting dog (pointer)
>> is not a good choice. That's my 2-cents worth.
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:31:22 -0400
> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Guard dogs/ family dogs
> To: Sharon Hill <sharonehill at yahoo.com>, <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Message-ID: <2005811183122.577091 at patchwor-5x0okk>
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> Rima, my last Great Dane, would make a face that looked like she was
> snarling. If she'd done something wrong (like dump over the garbage or
> sleep on the bed), she'd always greet me at the door with that face -
> "oops, I goofed - might as well confess now!" She was a very gentle dog,
> but no
> stranger is willing to climb over a fence with a 120 lb dog (she was on
> the small side for a Dane) on the other side. All of my Danes have been
> very gentle around people, livestock, cats, etc, but have also been
> protective of their "estates" - even the one that lived with me on a 34'
> boat - not much of an estate :-) Mine were all females.
>
> I enjoyed hearing what everyone had to say about dogs. None of our dogs
> have ever chased sheep, chickens, cats or rabbits. They do undergo a
> training session early on. Most of them have chased squirrels, though.
> We're had a real assortment of dogs, including breeds which would not
> normally be considered farm dogs - a Mountain Cur and a Shar-Pei/Pit Bull
> cross - that turned out to be wonderful farm dogs, although both had been
> abused strays so were not prone to making friends with strangers. I had to
> laugh when I read Cathy's story about the Airedale being beat up by the
> ewe! Lucy, an 85 lb Shar-Pei/Pit Bull cross and the world's most timid
> dog, reacts to any threatening situation by rolling over, belly up. She
> was with me while I was feeding the ewes and lambs. I never heard
> anything, but turned around to see Lucy, belly up and silent, being beat
> up by Priscilla. It was interesting to see the species interacting.
> Priscilla was waiting for Lucy to give up and run away
> and Lucy was doing her best to give up!
>
> Cathy, Dave has always wanted an Airedale. I'm glad to hear that yours is
> good with your livestock.
>
> Linda
> Who just found her next Great Dane puppy!
>
>
>
>
>
> Getting ready for 2006 lambs!
> www.patchworkfibers.com
> Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn
>
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT), Sharon Hill wrote:
>
>>
>> He has a funny habit of raising the lip on one side of his mouth
>> when happy to see people, and it makes it look as if he is
>> snarling. This is a good thing when strangers come around. They
>> won't go in the fence where he is. People who know him, know that
>> he is just smiling.
>>
>> He is one of the nicest dogs I have ever had and I have had a lot
>> of dogs. (7 at at the moment). Even if the time comes when I have
>> no sheep, I think I will always have a Great Pyrennes.
>>
>> Sharon Hill
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:04:33 -0400
> From: "Kelley Rambo" <Kelley_Rambo at antiochne.edu>
> Subject: [Jacob-list] aspirin?
> To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
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> Hi -
>
> Does anyone know if it is safe to put a sheep on aspirin? I have an older
> ewe (11+) who has a bad knee and is starting to have "creaky joints" as
> well. I would like to do something to help make it less painful for her
> to get up and down. Please email me off-list.
>
> Thanks,
> Kelley
> kelley_rambo at antiochne.edu
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700
> From: Debbie Bennett <dbennet954 at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Guard dogs/ family dogs
> To: aztreaz at earthlink.net
> Cc: Jacob List <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Message-ID: <1DC49B6A-96BA-4973-9199-F978725AC1B7 at earthlink.net>
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> We had a chocolate lab, a "fetch dog" when we first moved to our
> farm. The Jacob ewes beat him up, and he tried to stay clear of them.
> He brought me chickens if they escaped from the coop, but he never
> hurt them (labs have a soft mouth). He was great with the kids, but
> not a guard dog.
> We were given a collie/Aussie mix and she was a great herd dog, but
> she had a tendency to worry the sheep and my Jacobs wouldn't hold
> together as a herd, they'd split into 3 or 4 groups going different
> directions so that one dog couldn't bring them all in. She went to a
> cattle ranch and they love her.
> We now have llamas to guard our herd. The sheep will run to the llama
> when he calls out a danger signal. And our Danny Boy not only has
> chased off predators, but also herds the sheep when we are trying to
> round them up!
> Debbie Bennett
> Feral Fibre Farm
> Oakland, Or
>
> On Aug 11, 2005, at 12:22 PM, ARTHUR PARTRIDGE wrote:
>
>> Airedale terriers are great watchdogs, great with kids, and will
>> not hut
>> anything that belongs on the farm. They also do not shed.
>> However, they
>> are worthless as sheep herders or drivers. Our Airedale went in
>> the sheep
>> paddock to check out (and play) with a lamb and got pummeled by the
>> mother
>> ewe. He never threatened her and just left very fast. We have all
>> kinds
>> of poultry at our place. I got a blue heeler/German shepherd mix
>> to help
>> me with the sheep. We have had her for 4 years and she has killed 4
>> chickens, 1 duck, and 1 wild rabbit. But that interest is what
>> makes her
>> good at driving sheep. She now leaves the geese alone, but she is
>> still
>> very bloodthirsty when it comes to chickens. She has to stay in a
>> pen or
>> the house for most of the time. Not a great farm dog and I can't
>> trust her
>> alone outside. Be careful what you get. I know similar farms that
>> have
>> black labs and they do not go after poultry. A bird-hunting dog
>> (pointer)
>> is not a good choice. That's my 2-cents worth.
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>>
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