[Jacob-list] Re: Jacob-list digest, Vol 2 #229 - 2 msgs
Victoria da Roza
castlerockjacobs at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 2 12:30:05 EDT 2004
Katrina,
I think the height of fence depends on what kind of
predators you have in the area. Here in N. California
we are losing many sheep and goats to coyotes and mt.
lions. We usually live near parks and open spaces and
with the density of housing increasing in these areas
the habitat gets smaller and smaller. At night we
feed(orchard grass) in smaller pastures to get the
sheep to come in and the fencing is sections from dog
runs which is 1x2 welded wire over 6ft high. So when
we hear the packs of coyotes howling very close we
still sleep soundly. Being in the country we also get
people dumping dogs. I used to train dogs in
obedience and the height they have dogs jump easily is
one and a half times their height at the shoulders.
If they are hungry they can easily jump
higher...remember the training you have seen for
german shepherds for army work? Since you have lots
of property along a road this should be a
consideration too. We have tons of deer in the area
and we like to keep them from eating the grass we put
out for the sheep at night so the height is good for
that too...deer carry lots of things sheep can get.
Glad you are liking your new place. There is
always a silver lining to most crises if we give
ourselves over to the change....though I resist
changes along with the best of them. Victoria
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> From: "Katrina & Dave" <davekat at copper.net>
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> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 08:25:20 -0400
> Subject: [Jacob-list] fencing.
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> Hi everyone-
> We are really enjoying our new place and settling in
> without problem. We =
> are amazed by how smooth the process was and how
> quickly we adjusted to =
> being here...especially after we agonized so much
> about the decision! =
> Chicory Lane is a great place, but I guess the old
> adage 'more fish in =
> the sea' applies in more ways than just boys!
> *smile*
> The new owners of Chicory agreed to keep our flock
> until we can get =
> fence up on this place....which should be anytime!
> Yippee. What a =
> luxury to hire someone to put it up this time
> instead of spending 6 yrs =
> slowly putting it up ourselves. I have to say
> though, when we consider =
> the price, we are quite proud of the work we did on
> Chicory's 10 acres! =
> Dave was definitely validated. =20
> So now here is the question: We are sold on woven
> wire (American wire) =
> fencing for Jacobs instead of high tensile... thus
> the price. The Amish =
> guy that is doing the work suggested we go with 32"
> woven wire topped =
> with 2 strands of electric wire set at 8" and 10".
> The strands would =
> not necessarily be hot. I respect this guy's
> knowledge on fences and =
> think it might work, but also know Jacobs like to
> jump. What is the =
> opinion? Do you think this will work? It will save
> quite a bit of =
> money and seems fairly secure. However, this place
> does have a lot of =
> road frontage and a Jacob on the loose would not be
> fun! Opinions?
>
> This place also presents a challenge as it has
> springs running thru it =
> and we will have to tile a bit of the pasture. Will
> be a learning =
> experience! Will keep you posted. -Katrina
> Lefever in the Pigeon =
> Hills.
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Hi
> everyone-</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>We are
> really enjoying our =
> new place and=20
> settling in without problem. We are amazed by how
> smooth the process was =
> and how=20
> quickly we adjusted to being here...especially after
> we agonized so much =
> about=20
> the decision! Chicory Lane is a great
> place, but I guess the =
> old=20
> adage 'more fish in the sea' applies in more ways
> than just boys! =20
> *smile*</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>The new
> owners of Chicory =
> agreed to keep=20
> our flock until we can get fence up on this
> place....which should be=20
> anytime! Yippee. What a luxury to hire
> someone to put it up =
> this=20
> time instead of spending 6 yrs slowly putting it up
> ourselves. I =
> have to=20
> say though, when we consider the price, we are quite
> proud of the work =
> we did on=20
> Chicory's 10 acres! Dave was definitely=20
> validated. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2> So
> now here is the =
> question: =20
> We are sold on woven wire (American wire) fencing
> for Jacobs instead of =
> high=20
> tensile... thus the price. The Amish guy that
> is doing the work =
> suggested=20
> we go with 32" woven wire topped with 2 strands of
> electric wire set at =
> 8" and=20
> 10". The strands would not necessarily be
> hot. I respect =
> this guy's=20
> knowledge on fences and think it might work, but
> also know Jacobs like =
> to=20
> jump. What is the opinion? Do you think
> this will =
> work? It=20
> will save quite a bit of money and seems fairly
> secure. However, =
> this=20
> place does have a lot of road frontage and a Jacob
> on the loose would =
> not be=20
> fun! Opinions?</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>This
> place also presents a =
> challenge as=20
> it has springs running thru it and we will have to
> tile a bit of the=20
> pasture. Will be a learning
> experience! Will keep you=20
> posted. -Katrina Lefever in the Pigeon =
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> Message: 2
> From: "Neal and Louise Grose" <nlgrose at yadtel.net>
> To: "Katrina & Dave" <davekat at copper.net>,
> "Jacob-list" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] fencing.
> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 09:19:45 -0400
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> Our experience is that the 32 inch fencing is
> preferable to the taller =
> fencing because it follows the land better. It
> should also have narrower =
> blocks (2 inches at the bottom) so that lambs can
> not get their heads =
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Victoria
Castle Rock Farm
Jacob Sheep & Nigerian Dwarf Goats
www.castlerockfarm.net
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