[Jacob-list] Re: Jacob-list digest, Vol 2 #32 - 10 msgs Ram lambs in 2003 ?

Gary and Nancy Claver sheepspots at digitex.net
Sat Jan 24 18:21:20 EST 2004


We don't lamb until mid-March and weather is usually very good and pastures
green so we have awhile.  I have  a question about last years lamb crop.
Did anyone else have a larger number of ram lambs than usual?  I talked to
one  prominent breeder and she really had an off-sided percentage of ram
lambs, even more so than we did.  Just curious.....
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> From: "Betty Berlenbach" <lambfarm at sover.net>
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> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:14:57 -0500
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> Dear Gary,
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> If all breeders were as considerate as you are and I know you to be from =
> the list, we would be a much better association.  We all make mistakes =
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If all breeders were as considerate as =
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> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:35:31 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mary Hansson <buffgeese at yahoo.com>
> To: Jacob List <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Subject: [Jacob-list] lambs?
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> Hi,
>
> I haven't heard a single soul discuss lambs being born.  Usually by this
point we have lots of them popping out and dancing around pastures.  My
lambs usually don't get started until mid February in NC.
>
> Mary Ellen
>
>
>
>
> Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD, LDN
> ISeeSpots Farm
> Jacob Sheep:  Lambs, adults, wool
> www.iseespots.com
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> <DIV>Hi,</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>I haven't heard a single soul discuss lambs being born.&nbsp; Usually
by this point we have lots of them popping out and dancing around
pastures.&nbsp; My lambs usually don't get started until mid February in
NC.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Mary Ellen<BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD,
LDN<br>ISeeSpots Farm<br>Jacob Sheep:  Lambs, adults,
wool<br>www.iseespots.com
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> From: "Purrfleece Farms" <pfarms at alltel.net>
> To: "Jacob List" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] lambs?
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:30:48 -0600
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> Hi Mary Ellen,
>
> I had twin Shetland lambs born about 6 am Monday morning. They were =
> still wet when I found them and moved them into a jug. I lost one of the =
> twins overnight that night.
>
> Same day, came home from a community lunch and found that a Jacob lamb =
> had arrived and he (yes, a ram) and mom are also in a jug.
>
> We have rain due this weekend and I expect to see at least one more =
> delivery.
>
> Our lows have been in the 20s until this morning.  This morning-40 =
> degrees with a projected 57 high.  My experience is that when the =
> weather is the worst-ice storms, no power, high winds, etc., the Jacobs =
> seem to deliver.  Two years ago, we had deliveries during an ice storm. =
> I think it may have something to do with barometric pressure changes and =
> the baby saying "let me out".
>
> Rich
> Purrfleece Farms
> pfarms at alltel.net
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Mary Hansson=20
>   To: Jacob List=20
>   Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 6:35 AM
>   Subject: [Jacob-list] lambs?
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I haven't heard a single soul discuss lambs being born.  Usually by =
> this point we have lots of them popping out and dancing around pastures. =
>  My lambs usually don't get started until mid February in NC.
>
>   Mary Ellen
>
>
>
>
>   Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD, LDN
>   ISeeSpots Farm
>   Jacob Sheep: Lambs, adults, wool
>   www.iseespots.com
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mary Ellen,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had twin Shetland lambs born about 6 =
> am Monday=20
> morning. They were still wet when I found them and moved them into a =
> jug.&nbsp;I=20
> lost one of the twins overnight that night.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same day, came home from a community =
> lunch and=20
> found that a Jacob lamb had arrived and he (yes, a ram) and mom are also =
> in a=20
> jug.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We have rain due this weekend and I =
> expect to see=20
> at least one more delivery.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Our lows have been in the 20s until =
> this=20
> morning.&nbsp; This morning-40 degrees with a projected 57 high.&nbsp; =
> My=20
> experience is that when the weather is the worst-ice storms, no power, =
> high=20
> winds, etc., the Jacobs seem to deliver.&nbsp; Two years ago, we had =
> deliveries=20
> during an ice storm. I think it may have something to do with barometric =
>
> pressure changes and the baby saying "let me out".</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Purrfleece Farms</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:pfarms at alltel.net">pfarms at alltel.net</A></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> black"><B>From:</B>=20
>   <A title=3Dbuffgeese at yahoo.com =
> href=3D"mailto:buffgeese at yahoo.com">Mary=20
>   Hansson</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Djacob-list at jacobsheep.com=20
>   href=3D"mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com">Jacob List</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 24, =
> 2004 6:35=20
>   AM</DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Jacob-list] =
> lambs?</DIV>
>   <DIV><BR></DIV>
>   <DIV>Hi,</DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV>I haven't heard a single soul discuss lambs being born.&nbsp; =
> Usually by=20
>   this point we have lots of them popping out and dancing around =
> pastures.&nbsp;=20
>   My lambs usually don't get started until mid February in NC.</DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV>Mary Ellen<BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD,=20
>   LDN<BR>ISeeSpots Farm<BR>Jacob Sheep: Lambs, adults, wool<BR><A=20
>   =
> href=3D"http://www.iseespots.com">www.iseespots.com</A></BLOCKQUOTE></BOD=
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> From: "Melanie" <melanie.boxall at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Jacob List" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] lambs?
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:02:47 -0500
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> I was wondering the same thing Mary. We are still at least two weeks =
> away from lambing, and I'm grateful for that as it's been bitter cold up =
> here. When mine come they won't be dancing around pastures, there's a 5 =
> foot drift right outside the barn door, IF I could get it open, which I =
> probably can't!
>
> Melanie
> My mind not only wanders, it sometimes leaves completely.
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Mary Hansson=20
>   To: Jacob List=20
>   Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:35 AM
>   Subject: [Jacob-list] lambs?
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I haven't heard a single soul discuss lambs being born.  Usually by =
> this point we have lots of them popping out and dancing around pastures. =
>  My lambs usually don't get started until mid February in NC.
>
>   Mary Ellen
>
>
>
>
>   Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD, LDN
>   ISeeSpots Farm
>   Jacob Sheep: Lambs, adults, wool
>   www.iseespots.com
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was wondering the same thing Mary. We =
> are still=20
> at least two weeks away from lambing, and I'm grateful for that as it's =
> been=20
> bitter cold up here. When mine come they won't be dancing around =
> pastures,=20
> there's a 5 foot drift right outside the barn door, IF I could get it =
> open,=20
> which I probably can't!</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><BR>Melanie<BR>My mind not only wanders, it sometimes leaves=20
> completely.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> black"><B>From:</B>=20
>   <A title=3Dbuffgeese at yahoo.com =
> href=3D"mailto:buffgeese at yahoo.com">Mary=20
>   Hansson</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Djacob-list at jacobsheep.com=20
>   href=3D"mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com">Jacob List</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 24, =
> 2004 7:35=20
>   AM</DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Jacob-list] =
> lambs?</DIV>
>   <DIV><BR></DIV>
>   <DIV>Hi,</DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV>I haven't heard a single soul discuss lambs being born.&nbsp; =
> Usually by=20
>   this point we have lots of them popping out and dancing around =
> pastures.&nbsp;=20
>   My lambs usually don't get started until mid February in NC.</DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV>Mary Ellen<BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD,=20
>   LDN<BR>ISeeSpots Farm<BR>Jacob Sheep: Lambs, adults, wool<BR><A=20
>   =
> href=3D"http://www.iseespots.com">www.iseespots.com</A></BLOCKQUOTE></BOD=
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> Message: 5
> To: pfarms at alltel.net
> Cc: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:37:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] lambs?
> From: marguerite vanbeek <pegaleg2 at juno.com>
>
> Mary Ellen
>
> I had a ewe lamb on Thrusday out of my Maizie ewe.  Great coloring.
>
> Peggy
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:00:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mary Hansson <buffgeese at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] lambs?
> To: Purrfleece Farms <pfarms at alltel.net>,
> Jacob List <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
>
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> Hi,
>
> The barometric pressure change theory is sure loved by nurses---as well as
the full moon theory.
>
> I listened to all the theories I could get my hands on in the early
days---and then tracked them to see if the people offering the advice knew
what they were talking about :o)).  I have tracked babies coming here since
we started (10 years of lambing this spring), and have had the RARE delivery
during a storm.  My girls seem to be accommodating in that they deliver
either 1-2 days before a big storm (when it is still coming in), OR 1-2 days
after the worst of the storm is over.  I think we have only had one actual
delivery in a nasty snow/ice event.  Now it is important to keep in mind
that we start getting ice storms in December, and they can happen at any
point through February-----and my lambing usually starts mid-February.  I
will say that rain is also something I consider "storm", and I just haven't
had to go out very often in that weather.  I would have had a much better
indicator had I lived in the NE or upper mid-west where the snow events are
much more often and of longer
>  duration.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD, LDN
> ISeeSpots Farm
> Jacob Sheep:  Lambs, adults, wool
> www.iseespots.com
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> <DIV>Hi,</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>The barometric pressure change theory is sure loved by nurses---as
well as the full moon theory.&nbsp; </DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>I listened to all the theories I could get my hands on in the early
days---and then tracked them to see if the people offering the advice knew
what they were talking about :o)).&nbsp; I have tracked babies coming here
since we started (10 years of lambing this spring), and have had the RARE
delivery during a storm.&nbsp; My girls seem to be accommodating in that
they deliver either 1-2 days before a big storm (when it is still coming
in), OR 1-2 days after the worst of the storm is over.&nbsp; I think we have
only had one actual delivery in a nasty snow/ice event.&nbsp; Now it is
important to keep in mind that we start getting ice storms in December, and
they can happen at any point through February-----and my lambing usually
starts mid-February.&nbsp; I will say that rain is also something I consider
"storm", and I just haven't had to go out very often in that weather.&nbsp;
I would have had a much better indicator had I lived in the NE or upper
mid-west where the snow events
>  are much more often and of longer duration.</DIV>
> <DIV><BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR>Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD,
LDN<br>ISeeSpots Farm<br>Jacob Sheep:  Lambs, adults,
wool<br>www.iseespots.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:08:01 -0700
> From: Karen Sigler <karen at benjaminfarms.com>
> To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
> Subject: [Jacob-list] 01/24/04
>
>     Just checking to see if my emails are posting....
> Karen Sigler
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:20:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: Victoria da Roza <castlerockjacobs at yahoo.com>
> To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
> Subject: [Jacob-list] birth signs?
>
> Hi all,
>    This is my first ewe giving birth and I am not sure
> just what signs to read.  Through the prayers of
> friends I got my neck surgery early and so I cut the
> wool off the back end of Nibbles so at least that
> would be clean before I had to go to the hospital.  We
> could not sheer yet cause it always rains on the
> planned day and the wool is wet.
>   When I got a good look at her udder it was quite a
> bit larger than a handful, she has dropped and you can
> see kicking on the sides, the tail ligaments are
> softer than the other ewe and she is pretty chubby.
>    We had to leave her in a part of a bomb shelter
> under the house (wierd I know but built in the 60's)
> with a bed of straw,light on and food and water.It is
> nice and dry there.  We are pretty damp here each day.
>    They took out a golf ball size lump and I have a 4
> inch incision.  Problem is for the next 2 weeks I can
> not push, pull, lift or bend over so the sutures stay
> closed.  So all the books I read will not be a big
> help in the delivery as Robert will be the midwife
> now.Plus the dr. does not want me to be near animals
> for 2 weeks with the open wound.
>    It is 3 days after surgery and she still has not
> given birth.  Will it still be a long time or should I
> keep her in her nest still?  It is a big place so she
> can walk around, etc.  We put her out on grass
> yesterday but not in the same field as the other
> sheep.
>    My other ewe does not look at all pregnant at this
> time.  They have both been in with the ram the same
> amount of time.
>    Gary, sorry about the blue tongue thing.  I wil
> send you pics of Boots first babies when they arrive.
>    So any of you on the list, any ides of how far we
> are from lambs?
>  Victoria
>
> =====
> Victoria
> Castle Rock Farm
> Jacob Sheep & Nigerian Dwarf Goats
> www.castlerockfarm.net
>
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> Message: 9
> From: "Kelly Przylepa and Rich Moore" <kellyandrich at earthlink.net>
> To: "jacob list" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:08:42 -0500
> Subject: [Jacob-list] Washing & sorting wool
>
> My daughter and I are attempting to wash some Jacob wool to spin. We would
> like to separate it into white, black, and mixed. Is there a difference if
> we sort it unwashed or washed?
>
> Thanks, Kelly
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:18:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mary Hansson <buffgeese at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] birth signs?
> To: Victoria da Roza <castlerockjacobs at yahoo.com>,
> jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
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> Victoria,
>
> Heal quickly, and don't fret too much.  My husband has been on duty a few
times and my heart is in my mouth every time.  The good Lord has gifted him
(and me) with eventless births every time, and each time he has mid-wife'd
his way through the event, he has come out the other side more in tune with
the sheep and more interested in keeping them around.
>
> If you saw a breeding and wrote that down on a calendar, the dates in
Laura Lawson's Managing Your Ewe will likely be within 1 day either
way---that is just experience talking, and things can vary.  If you didn't
see a breeding, you may very well be another month or more out.
>
> I have seen mucous plugs come out of behinds and it be another week before
the baby comes forth happy and healthy.  I have also seen mucous plugs come
and baby there within the 12 hours that are most typical.
>
> In short, the barometer I use for "imminent lambing" is the following:
Feed am and pm.  If a ewe comes in with the group for feed but only picks or
stands around looking like she doesn't quite know why she is there (and
everybody else is chowing down like usual), I grab the ewe and lock her up.
We usually have babies within 3-4 hours at the most.  Until then, exercise
is the best thing for the ewe----and there are some very good shepherds out
there that will also urge you to leave her out and let her handle things on
her own.
>
> The only time such a decision is the "wrong" one is if baby is turned
around backwards and sucks all that amniotic fluid in when the rib cage
expands and the head is still inside the ewe.....  Once you see back
tootsies coming, it is too late.  I have never been able to get close to a
ewe that is in the open.  This is the reason I opt (when I am home and it is
possible at all) for the locking the ewe up when she goes off feed.
>
> I have missed 2-3 times over the years----and had a VERY GRUMPY ewe to
show for my attention to detail. :o)  The locking up didn't hurt her, but
created a real crimp in her schedule.
>
> Mary Ellen
>
>
>
>
> Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD, LDN
> ISeeSpots Farm
> Jacob Sheep:  Lambs, adults, wool
> www.iseespots.com
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>
> <DIV>Victoria,</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Heal quickly, and don't fret too much.&nbsp; My husband has been on
duty a few times and my heart is in my mouth every time.&nbsp; The good Lord
has gifted him (and me) with eventless births every time, and each time he
has mid-wife'd his way through the event, he has come out the other side
more in tune with the sheep and more interested in keeping them
around.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>If you saw a breeding and wrote that down on a calendar, the dates in
Laura Lawson's Managing Your Ewe will likely be within 1 day either
way---that is just experience talking, and things can vary.&nbsp; If you
didn't see a breeding, you may very well be another month or more out.&nbsp;
</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>I have seen mucous plugs come out of behinds and it be another week
before the baby comes forth happy and healthy.&nbsp; I have also seen mucous
plugs come and baby there within the 12 hours that are most typical.&nbsp;
</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>In short, the barometer I use for "imminent lambing" is the
following:&nbsp; Feed am and pm.&nbsp; If a ewe comes in with the group for
feed but only picks or stands around looking like she doesn't quite know why
she is there (and everybody else is chowing down like usual), I grab the ewe
and lock her up.&nbsp; We usually have babies within 3-4 hours at the
most.&nbsp; Until then, exercise is the best thing for the ewe----and there
are some very good shepherds out there that will also urge you to leave her
out and let her handle things on her own.&nbsp; </DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>The only time such a decision is the "wrong" one is if baby is turned
around backwards and sucks all that amniotic fluid in when the rib cage
expands and the head is still inside the ewe.....&nbsp; Once you see back
tootsies coming, it is too late. &nbsp;I have never been able to get close
to a ewe that is in the open.&nbsp; This is the reason I opt (when I am home
and it is possible at all) for the locking the ewe up when she goes off
feed.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>I have missed 2-3 times over the years----and had a VERY GRUMPY ewe
to show for my attention to detail. :o)&nbsp; The locking up didn't hurt
her, but created a real crimp in her schedule.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Mary Ellen<BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Mary Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD,
LDN<br>ISeeSpots Farm<br>Jacob Sheep:  Lambs, adults,
wool<br>www.iseespots.com
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