[Jacob-list] Overeating?

[Dave & Katrina]

I think Neal or Louise Grose sent a great explaination of that a while
ago...could you guys re-post it?  sorry, should have saved it.  from what I
remember, over-eating causes tears that allow the over-eating disease
bacteria thru the lining of the stomach.  I was assuming they still bloat,
but maybe they can jog my memory?  Katrina


> [Original Message]
> From: Linda Bjarkman <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>
> To: Mary Ellen Hansson <mhansson1 at triad.rr.com>;
<jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>; Marilyn Wallace <mwallace at osprey.net>;
<oberlef at supernet.com>
 > Date: 4/25/03 4:54:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [Jacob-list] Overeating?
>
> I don't think that bloat and overeating disease are the same.   I=
>  honestly don't 
> know much about overeating disease, but when a friend lost a goat=
>  to what the vet 
> said "may" have been overeating disease, the symptoms pretty much=
>  consisted of being 
> dead.  The goat had been vaccinated with a vaccine that was way=
>  out of date.  I see 
> by checking some literature that there may be a number of=
>  symptoms, but nothing that 
> looked like bloat.  I have seen bloat in my sheep - twice, I=
>  think, and it's pretty 
> obvious.
> 
> I am all for moving towards a more natural, less hands-on method=
>  of livestock 
> management!  My ewe that came from a flock that didn't worm is=
>  among my hardiest 
> sheep and has only been wormed once since arriving here last=
>  fall.  I doubt she 
> needed it, I just felt I should do it.  
> 
> Linda
> 
> On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:38:54 -0400, Dave & Katrina wrote:
> >I'd love to hear from any shepherds out there who are moving=
>  toward a more
> >'natural' way of shepherding.  Our goal in the back of our minds=
>  in to raise
> >our animals closer to organic standards in PA and it seems of=
>  all sheep
> >breeds, Jacobs would be the one that would be successful.   When=
>  I look at old
> > documentation it looks like some of the old flocks, at least=
>  the Fieldwood
> >flock, one I admire, and probably the English flocks, did not=
>  dock and did not
> >vaccinate except for tetanus, so it should be a responsible way=
>  to raise the
> >breed.    I have to admit to starting making some of those=
>  changes this year,
> >but am wavering... would like to hear more from anyone who is=
>  going that
> >direction. As far as MEH's comment about shepherds having sheep=
>  die and
> >wondering if lack of Vaccinations was the cause...it seems the=
>  at least for
> >the CD&T shots, it should be obvious...both Tetanus & bloat have=
>  very distinct
> >symptoms.  Correct me if i am wrong.  Katrina Lefever -----=
>  Original Message
> >----- From: Mary Ellen Hansson To:=
>  jacob-list at jacobsheep.com;Marilyn Wallace
> >Sent: 4/24/03 9:42:24 PM Subject: RE: [Jacob-list] Overeating?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The diseases those shots are fighting against are not genetic=
>  diseases that
> >the sheep are =93naturally=94 resistant to.  Think of them like=
>  chicken pox.  I
> >know of several shepherds that have lost and a few that THINK=
>  they have lost
> >animals to those diseases who were not vaccinating.
> >
> >
> >
> >Mary Ellen Hansson
> >
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: jacob-list-admin at jacobsheep.com=
>  [mailto:jacob-list-admin at jacobsheep.com]
> >On Behalf Of Marilyn Wallace Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 1:46=
>  PM To: jacob-
> >list at jacobsheep.com Subject: [Jacob-list] Overeating?
> >
> >
> >
> >Since I hear so much that Jacobs are a hardy breed, I am=
>  wondering if they
> >require overeating shots?  My kids had Suffolks during 4-H days=
>  and I am just
> >starting with Jacobs and wondered if it is needed for them as=
>  well?
> >
> >
> >Thanks, Marilyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Check out our personal websites=
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> >www.marykay.com/mwallace1
> >
> >
> >
> >
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