[Jacob-list] triplets

linda wolfpen at rabun.net
Fri Feb 23 09:32:44 EST 2001


I'm not having a very organized day.  The thick,not think post was a PS to this post, which I 
meant to send to the list and didn't.  If anyone can figure this out, let me know.  I'm going 
for more coffee now.
Here is the original post that was in reply to Betty's post.


The following is from the Purdue University website:
 
"How do I know if the ewe is going to have twins or triplets?Sometimes you 
can tell in advance from the size and shape of the ewe. If another lamb is 
coming, the ewe may get restless again, walking away from her lamb, or 
lying down with contractions. The second (or third) amnion may break with 
another flood of fluid. If a bag of reddish fluid and a white worm-like tissue, 
or the afterbirth itself, appears, it probably means she is not going to have 
any more lambs that year. Sometimes the only way to be sure whether there 
is another lamb is to physically examine the ewe with a glove and lubricant. 
Unless something seems to be awry, it's best not to interfere. "
 
So it certainly does support what others have said.  It does not support what 
I've said and what I've seen.  I think this does emphasize that situations are 
different and there is no "book answer" to some of the sheep questions. The 
most obvious sign of multiple lambs for me is the ewe's behaviour.  But I 
have a small flock and I'm pretty familiar with all the ewes and their 
personalities.  I very often have two afterbirths with twin lambs and the lamb, 
placenta, lamb, placenta sequence is not at all unusual here.  (yes, i was 
calling the placenta a "think cord").  I also usually observe multiple breedings 
during a single heat cycle, so are these from different matings?  I was under 
the assumption that each lamb has its own placenta - except in the unusual 
event of identical twins.  Am I wrong there?  It would not be the first time!  
Would someone out there like to post a very simple, but detailed account 
from fertilization to birth?
 
I'm sure glad my mother didn't wash me quite so strenuously before eating!  
Truman just about sparkles, he is so clean.  Yesterday's new lambs, George 
and Martha (what else could I name them) are typical Jacob lambs - running 
and jumping and keeping me entertained!
 
Linda
 
 
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:59:37 -0500, Betty Berlenbach wrote:
>    Geez, my mother, too, made me wash before eating.  What  is it with 
mother-types!
>  
> Since uteri have two horns, and occasionally can even be bred  by two 
separate rams or same
>ram, two breedings, once settling in each horn, it  is, I suppose possible 
that if you have
>lamb, afterbirth, lamb afterbirth, you  could have two separate breedings 
in two horns.  If
>you have no afterbirth  between the lambs, which is more normal, then 
just one horn of the
>uterus was  involved, I would think.  But, 
hey...Lamb,cord,lamb,cord...sequence: here I
>think we are talking semantics: how thick the cord is depends on how 
much came  out with the
>lamb and how close to the placenta it was, and how thick the cord  was in 
general.  I think
>the "thick cord" referred to in the answer was  really placenta.
 
 
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