[Jacob-list] Jacob lilac question
Sugar Hill Farm
sugarhillfarm at i2k.com
Thu Aug 9 07:29:32 EDT 2001
About the lilac and leg/patch, etc color...Mine seem to be the same color
overall. The leg and face patches are darker than the body color, but are
all the lilac tone.
Marcia
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie Bennett" <dbennet954 at earthlink.net>
To: <hettick.1 at osu.edu>
Cc: "Jacob List" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Jacob lilac question
> I have gotten one lilac each year for the last two years out of b/w
> parents. In both cases the lilac coloring was apparent at birth ( facial
> markings) and neither lamb has black spotting on the legs. In tracing
> the ancestry of the ewes (used different rams), I came across one common
> great-grandparent that had been known to throw lilac offspring. I have
> one "fading" lilac ewe that is throwing me b/w offspring, so far (I have
> been told that as she is fading at two years old, she probably carries
> the early greying gene). Since I like the lilac coloring, I purchased a
> lilac ram last month and plan to use him on my (3) ewes with lilac in
> their backgrounds. So, we'll see what we get next Spring.
>
> Debbie Bennett
> Feral Fibre
> Oakland, Oregon
>
> On Monday, August 6, 2001, at 05:38 AM, Heather Hettick wrote:
>
> > I would call Thom's example greying and not lilac. My lilacs are
> > obvious
> > at birth because of the different coloring or in the case of the darker
> > ones, the light eye ring. I had a ewe lamb born almost charcoal color
> > out
> > of lilac parents, but she had the eye ring and mellowed to the lilac
> > brown
> > color as soon as her wool started to grow a bit, although she hasn't
> > faded
> > as much as her sister.
> >
> > My lilacs are all various shades of brown, although just like the blacks
> > some of them fade a bit and seem to turn a greyish taupe color as they
> > age.
> > Especially after the color change with age, I've noticed that the legs
> > and
> > face seem to generally keep their original darker shade, but I have none
> > that I would say have black leg spots. Maybe this is more a
> > characteristic
> > of the grey lilacs. I would think maybe the grey and browner lilacs are
> > caused by different genes possibly, but as I don't have any I would
> > consider
> > grey lilacs I can't say for sure. Mine seem to be carried recessively
> > in my
> > short experience with them. So far, I have always gotten only lilacs
> > where
> > both parents are lilac and a around half the time from a pairing of a
> > lilac
> > and a black with one known lilac parent.
> >
> > Do the grey lilacs actually have grey wool or is it a mixture of black
> > and
> > white that looks grey from a distance? Mine are actually brown, but
> > they do
> > grey as they age meaning that white fibers invade the colored patches,
> > making the spots look lighter.
> >
> > I was out watching my sheep yesterday, trying to get some decent
> > pictures,
> > and noticed that all the lilacs have just as black horns and hooves as
> > the
> > blacks. I have no striped horns in my flock at this point, although my
> > original lilac ram did have striped horns and produced two ram lambs
> > with
> > striped horns last year.
> >
> > Heather Hettick
> > Moonstruck Jacob Sheep
> > Creston, OH
> > hettick.1 at osu.edu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jacob-list-admin at jacobsheep.com
> > [mailto:jacob-list-admin at jacobsheep.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Simmons
> > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 6:03 AM
> > To: jacob-list
> > Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Jacob lilac question
> >
> >
> >
> > --And while we're on the subject......
> >
> > If a ewe grays in some places, butis jet black in others - (even with
> > distinct jet black spots in the MIDDLE of the grayed areas!) is this
> > really
> > graying? Or is it evidence of Lilac? Or ???
> >
> > thom
> >
> >
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