[AGL] Fwd: DRANT #213: UNDENIABLE HOLOCAUST

[michele mason]

Words, with clear meaning.  mm

On Feb 8, 2007, at 10:21 PM, Jon Ford wrote:


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> If you throw words around as if they have no fixed meaning, after a  

> while they will have no meaning at all . Darfur is a holocaust-- yes.  

> Iraq and Iran are a big mess, with violence from so many different  

> factions. It is a civil war with terrorists from all over the middle  

> east pitching in. The United States troops are killing plenty of  

> people, including many innocent civilians. Since they can do this with  

> impunity, you could call it a holocaust. The killing of  local Shia  

> (the hazara people) in Afghanistan by the Talaban (especially when  

> they were in power) could be called a holocaust. It seems at the very  

> least to say something is a holocaust you have to have a group in  

> power deliberately wiping out a subject group. With civil war and  

> terrost-oriented anarchy of today's war, everybody is killing  

> everybody else. This is madness, sheer chaos. As long as we remain in  

> Iraq, we will be part of that chaos, contributing to the bloodshed. if  

> we start wiping out certain groups deliberately in wholesale slaughter  

> (Sunnis, for instance) , then we will  certainly be guilty of a  

> holocaust.

>

> Jon

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>> From: Frances Morey <frances_morey at yahoo.com>

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>> Subject: [AGL] Fwd: DRANT #213: UNDENIABLE HOLOCAUST

>> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:22:33 -0800 (PST)

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>> David Rubinson <rubinson at kab.com> wrote:  From: David Rubinson  

>> <rubinson at kab.com>

>> Subject: DRANT #213: UNDENIABLE HOLOCAUST

>> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:32:54 -0800

>>

>>   DRANT DAILY

>>   Number 213

>>   February 7, 2006

>>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>   Today's DRANT

>>   ---Ill-tempered, Iconoclastic, Impatient and  

>> Ideologically-unpredictable views, comments, and sources about the  

>> World, how we humans are messing it up, and how we can all DO  

>> SOMETHING about it. For the complete, entire Megillah, please access  

>> the NEW DRANT WEBSITE (under construction at : http://drant.blog.com)

>>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>   "...It is nearly the Fourth Anniversary of the illegal  

>> Anglo-American-Australian-Coalition invasion of Iraq. What has been  

>> the economic and human cost of Bush’s Iraq War?

>>   In short, as of February 2007: (a) the accrual cost has been $2.3  

>> TRILLION; (b) there are 3.7 million Iraqi refugees; (c) the  

>> post-invasion excess deaths (avoidable deaths, deaths that did not  

>> have to happen) total 1.0 million (ONE MILLION); (d) post-invasion  

>> under-5 infant deaths total 0.6 million; (e) there were 1.7 million  

>> excess Iraqi deaths associated with the Western-imposed 1990-2003  

>> Sanctions War; (f) there were 1.2 million under-5 year old infant  

>> deaths in the 1990-2003 Sanctions War (see:  

>> http://mwcnews.net/content/view/12261/42/ ); and (g) Coalition deaths  

>> total about 3,360. These horrifying estimates from authoritative  

>> sources are amplified and documented below."

>>

>>

>>   "...What should decent people do about the on-going Iraqi Genocide  

>> or Iraqi Holocaust and the on-going Afghan Genocide or Afghan  

>> Holocaust?

>>   Peace is the only way but silence kills and silence is complicity.  

>> Decent people are morally obliged to (a) inform others about this  

>> carnage (lying, racist, holocaust-ignoring Mainstream media certainly  

>> won’t) and (b) act ethically in all their personal and business  

>> dealings with those complicit in this continuing atrocity. The  

>> horrendous magnitude of the carnage in these on-going holocausts  

>> demands international Sanctions and Boycotts against the US Alliance  

>> countries.

>>   Americans, British, Australians – and indeed any people – who  

>> knowingly ignore, deny, excuse, minimize, obfuscate, advocate,  

>> support or effect gross abuses of Women and Children (as in Iraq and  

>> Afghanistan) – or indeed of anyone – have crossed the line separating  

>> decent humanity from Nazi-style barbarism. Thus Westerners should  

>> simply NEVER AGAIN vote for those responsible for the on-going Iraqi  

>> Holocaust and the on-going Afghan Holocaust.

>>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>   In DRANT #212* I sent a devastating article from Dr. Gideon Polya,  

>> describing and statistically analyzing the genocide in Iraq.

>>   I called it "Holocaust."

>>   Amazingly to me, some readers objected. Holocaust is to be reserved  

>> for the Jews.

>>   As if the murder of Indigenous people in the Americas was not  

>> Holocaust.

>>   As if Slavery was not Holocaust.

>>   As if our perpetual murder of defenseless humans and the planet we  

>> live on is not Holocaust.

>>   Please read this updated article from Polya.

>>

>>

>>   * (My previous DRANT-

>>   Holocaust-  there is no other word -

>>   Vast unremitting calculated vengeful butchery of millions of human  

>> beings.

>>   This didn't start with George W. Bush.

>>   It has continued without respite since his daddy was in charge, and  

>> -  don't you forget it-  continued unabated under Bomber Bill.

>>   There is only one statistical constant in all of this.

>>   One non-variable.

>>   Through Republicans and Democrats, Neo cons and Protoliberals, rain  

>> sleet and snow-

>>   There is one relentlessly unchanging parameter -- under all  

>> conditions--

>>   The acquiescence and complicity of The American People. )

>>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>   US Iraqi Holocaust And One Million Excess Deaths

>>   By Dr Gideon Polya

>>   07 February, 2007

>>   Countercurrents.org

>>   http://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-polya070207.htm

>>

>>

>>   It is nearly the Fourth Anniversary of the illegal  

>> Anglo-American-Australian-Coalition invasion of Iraq. What has been  

>> the economic and human cost of Bush’s Iraq War?

>>

>>

>>   In short, as of February 2007: (a) the accrual cost has been $2.3  

>> TRILLION; (b) there are 3.7 million Iraqi refugees; (c) the  

>> post-invasion excess deaths (avoidable deaths, deaths that did not  

>> have to happen) total 1.0 million (ONE MILLION); (d) post-invasion  

>> under-5 infant deaths total 0.6 million; (e) there were 1.7 million  

>> excess Iraqi deaths associated with the Western-imposed 1990-2003  

>> Sanctions War; (f) there were 1.2 million under-5 year old infant  

>> deaths in the 1990-2003 Sanctions War (see:  

>> http://mwcnews.net/content/view/12261/42/ ); and (g) Coalition deaths  

>> total about 3,360. These horrifying estimates from authoritative  

>> sources are amplified and documented below.

>>

>>

>>   (a) ECONOMIC COST TO USA. The accrual cost of the Iraq War (i.e.  

>> the total, long-term committed cost, not just the Congressional  

>> allocation as measured by “cost accounting”) is $2.3 trillion  

>> according to the 2001 Economics Nobel Laureate US Professor Joseph  

>> Stiglitz (Columbia University) and his Harvard colleague Professor  

>> Linda Bilmes (see:  

>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15499.htm ).

>>

>>

>>   (b) IRAQI REFUGEES. The number of Iraqi refugees now total 3.7  

>> million - 2.0 million outside Iraq and 1.7 million inside Iraq – and  

>> UNHCR predicts that there will be up to 2.3 million internally  

>> displaced people within Iraq by the end of this year. (see:  

>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1986147,00.html ).

>>

>>

>>   (c) POST-INVASION IRAQI EXCESS DEATHS. In October 2006 an estimate  

>> of “655,000 post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Iraq as of July  

>> 2006” came from a top medical epidemiology research team in America's  

>> (and the World's) top Public Health Department (the Bloomberg School  

>> of Public Health) at a top US university (Johns Hopkins) and was  

>> published peer-reviewed in a top medical journal (The Lancet) and  

>> endorsed by 27 top Australian medical experts in the area (see: MWC  

>> News: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/12163/42/ ;  

>> http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/ and  

>> http://mwcnews.net/content/view/11293/42/ ).

>>

>>

>>   Consider the following estimate from the Johns Hopkins medical  

>> scientists of "annual death rate per 1,000 of population" of 13.3  

>> (post-invasion Iraq) as compared to (a) 5.5 (for pre-invasion Iraq  

>> after 12 years of crippling Sanctions) and (b) 4.0 (for Iraq's  

>> resource-poor but peaceful neighbours Syria and Jordan; UN Population  

>> Division data: http://esa.un.org/unpp/ ).

>>

>>

>>   The "post-invasion excess death rate/1000 of population" was 13.3 -  

>> 5.5 = 7.8 (Comparison A) or 13.3 - 4.0 = 9.3 (Comparison B). Assuming  

>> an average population of 27 million, the "post-invasion excess  

>> deaths" total (over 4 years i.e. as of February 2007) (A) 7.8 x 2,700  

>> x 4 = 842,000 and (B) 9.3 x 2,700 x 4 = 1,004,400 i.e. ONE MILLION.

>>

>>

>>   (d) POST-INVASION UNDER-5 YEAR OLD INFANT DEATHS. The post-invasion  

>> Iraqi under-5 infant deaths total 0.6 million as determined from UN  

>> Population Division data (see: ). 90% of these under-5 infant deaths  

>> have been avoidable and are due to gross Occupier violation of the  

>> Geneva Conventions (see: http://esa.un.org/unpp/ ).

>>

>>

>>   (e) SANCTIONS WAR EXCESS DEATHS (1990-2003). Excess deaths in Iraq  

>> during the 1990-2003 Sanctions War totalled 1.7 million (from UN  

>> Population Division data: http://esa.un.org/unpp/ ).

>>

>>

>>   (f) SANCTIONS WAR UNDER-5 INFANT DEATHS (1990-2003). The Iraqi  

>> under-5 infant deaths (1990-2003) totalled 1.2 million as determined  

>> from UN Population Division data (see: http://esa.un.org/unpp/ ). 90%  

>> of these under-5 infant deaths were avoidable.

>>

>>

>>   (g) POST-INVASION COALITION MILITARY DEATHS. The post-invasion  

>> Coalition military deaths total about 3,360 of whom 3,100 were  

>> American (see: http://icasualties.org/oif/ ).

>>

>>

>>   The carnage in Iraq constitutes a continuing US-driven Iraqi  

>> Genocide (Genocide as clearly defined by Article II subsections (a)  

>> -(d) of the Internationally-agreed UN Genocide Convention:  

>> http://www.preventgenocide.org/law/convention/text.htm ) and an Iraqi  

>> Holocaust in comparison with the World War 2 Jewish Holocaust (5-6  

>> million victims and the man-made World War 2 Bengali Holocaust in  

>> British-occupied India (4 million victims). Most of the victims have  

>> been Women and Children and the carnage is largely due to gross, war  

>> criminal Occupier violation of the Geneva Conventions which demand  

>> that Occupiers do everything within their power to keep their  

>> Conquered Subjects ALIVE (see Articles 55 and 56 in particular of the  

>> Geneva Conventions relating to civilians:  

>> http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm ).

>>

>>

>>   After 4 years of illegal, violent Occupation the post-invasion  

>> excess deaths in Occupied Iraq total ONE MILLION (from UN Population  

>> Division and medical literature data as outlined above). Taken  

>> together with 1.7 million excess deaths in the 1990-2003 Sanctions  

>> War (UN Population Division) and 3.7 million Iraqi refugees (UNHCR),  

>> this constitutes an Iraqi Genocide (as defined by the UN Genocide  

>> Convention) and an Iraqi Holocaust in comparison with the WW2 Jewish  

>> Holocaust (5-6 million victims) and the “forgotten” WW2  

>> British-caused WW2 Bengali Holocaust (4 million victims). The Iraqi  

>> under-5 infant deaths (1990-2007) now total 1.8 million, 90% having  

>> been avoidable and due to Western war crimes. Total Iraqi excess  

>> deaths (1990-2007) total 2.7 million. The post-invasion excess deaths  

>> in Occupied Afghanistan now total 2.2 million and Afghan refugees  

>> total about 3.7 million (see:  

>> http://mwcnews.net/content/view/11293/42/ ).

>>

>>

>>   Three quarters of the people of Occupied Iraq and Occupied  

>> Afghanistan are Women and Children – the Bush War on Terror is in  

>> horrible reality a cowardly War on Women and Children, a War on Asian  

>> Women and Children and a War on Muslim Women and Children.

>>

>>

>>   Ordinary Germans claimed in 1945 that they “didn’t know” about the  

>> Holocaust. Notwithstanding the racism, lying and holocaust-ignoring  

>> of Mainstream media, Americans (and British, Australian, Coalition  

>> and NATO country citizens) do not have the same excuse – the awful  

>> truth is only a few mouse-clicks away. Thus inspection of the UNICEF  

>> site (see: http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/index.html ) will  

>> quickly inform one that 0.5 million under-5 year old children die  

>> each year in the Occupied Iraqi and Afghan Territories i.e. 1,300  

>> each day, ONE PER MINUTE – this being largely due to gross Occupier  

>> violation of the Geneva Conventions that demand that the Occupier  

>> keeps its Conquered Subjects ALIVE (see:  

>> http://mwcnews.net/content/view/11968/42/ ).

>>

>>

>>   What should decent people do about the on-going Iraqi Genocide or  

>> Iraqi Holocaust and the on-going Afghan Genocide or Afghan Holocaust?

>>

>>

>>   Peace is the only way but silence kills and silence is complicity.  

>> Decent people are morally obliged to (a) inform others about this  

>> carnage (lying, racist, holocaust-ignoring Mainstream media certainly  

>> won’t) and (b) act ethically in all their personal and business  

>> dealings with those complicit in this continuing atrocity. The  

>> horrendous magnitude of the carnage in these on-going holocausts  

>> demands international Sanctions and Boycotts against the US Alliance  

>> countries.

>>

>>

>>   Americans, British, Australians – and indeed any people – who  

>> knowingly ignore, deny, excuse, minimize, obfuscate, advocate,  

>> support or effect gross abuses of Women and Children (as in Iraq and  

>> Afghanistan) – or indeed of anyone – have crossed the line separating  

>> decent humanity from Nazi-style barbarism. Thus Westerners should  

>> simply NEVER AGAIN vote for those responsible for the on-going Iraqi  

>> Holocaust and the on-going Afghan Holocaust.

>>

>>

>>   Mainstream media notoriously continue to deny the horrendous  

>> actuality of the carnage in Occupied Iraq and Occupied Afghanistan  

>> where the post-invasion excess deaths (avoidable deaths, deaths that  

>> did not have to happen) now total 1.0 MILLION and 2.2 MILLION,  

>> respectively (see: http://mwcnews.net/Gideon-Polya and specifically:  

>> http://mwcnews.net/content/view/11293/42/ and  

>> http://mwcnews.net/content/view/12261/42/ ). Decent people should  

>> simply eschew these holocaust-complicit media.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>   Those primarily responsible for the carnage of the Iraqi Holocaust  

>> and the Afghan Holocaust - Bush, Blair, Dr Rice (Dr Death) and their  

>> Coalition and NATO confreres such as Australia’s Howard and Canada’s  

>> Harper - should be arraigned and tried before the International  

>> Criminal Court as demanded by 2005 Literature Nobel Laureate Harold  

>> Pinter (see: http://www.countercurrents.org/arts-pinter081205.htm ).

>>

>>

>>   Dr Gideon Polya published some 130 works in a 4 decade scientific  

>> career, most recently a huge pharmacological reference text  

>> "Biochemical Targets of Plant Bioactive Compounds" (Taylor & Francis,  

>> New York & London, 2003). He is a Melbourne scientist and writer and  

>> is currently editing a completed book on global avoidable mortality  

>> (numerous articles on this matter can be found by a simple Google  

>> search for "Gideon Polya" and on his websites:  

>> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~gpolya/links.html and  

>> http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/).

>>

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