[AGL] Fwd: Texas: Beat the snot outta the First Shooter...

[michele mason]

Thank-you Frances.  mm

On Dec 9, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Frances Morey wrote:


> Mike,

> Try to read stuff a bit more carefully. I know you pride yourself on 

> speed reading but sometimes that leads to misunderstanding. The deputy 

> who came out on the call was not her son. She just indicated that in 

> wishful thinking she would like to see her son beat the snot, 

> etc. Wishfully thinking for something and witnessing it play out are 

> two entirely different things. You got them mixed up.

> If someone shot at my horses I'd at least make sure he had a flat.

> Frances

>

> Michael Eisenstadt <michaele at ando.pair.com> wrote:

>> Michele,

>>

>> your son the DPS trooper beat the snot out of a perp?

>>

>> that is so unChristian of you. i dont know how you

>> reconcile this in your mind, much less say it openly.

>>

>> Mike

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "michele mason"

>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

>>

>> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:10 AM

>> Subject: Re: [AGL] Fwd: Texas: Stop Shoot First Shooter in his tire

>> tracks...

>>

>>

>> As explained by the deputy who came: It is not illegal to fire off

>> road, but under no condition is it legal to fire onto the road—even in

>> self-defense. While I think the horse-killer deserved to die, I would

>> rather have disabled the car, if just to ask why? does this sick jerk

>> do this. Besides, provided he ran without the gun, I would have

>> thoroughly enjoyed watching my son run him down and beat the snot 

>> outta

>> him. mm

>>

>> On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Frances Morey wrote:

>>

>> > Hell, I'da shot at the horse drive-by shooter's car. If his defense

>> > would have been that he was shooting horses I would have said I was

>> > standing by the horse and thought he was shooting at me! I grew up

>> > with guns, too, even beat another kid at the hunting camp in a 

>> target

>> > shooting face off--he had won a ribbon in Boy Scout camp outshooting

>> > 500 other scouts. My dad was really proud of me. His dad gathered 

>> him

>> > up and they left hunting camp early.

>> > It's like this with me and guns, if you introduce a gun in a movie

>> > script at some point it has to be fired before the end of the 

>> movie. I

>> > feel that if the potential is there, at some point it will be used,

>> > sometimes by the intruder--so I just as soon not have them or keep

>> > them.

>> > Once the bullets start flying and the scene is scattered with bodies

>> > it is moot to talk about who shot first. I try to avoid gun totin'

>> > neighborhoods. That's probably just a delusion.

>> > When Whitman happened guns came out of the woodwork all over the 

>> place

>> > even though the students were at that time forbidden to keep 

>> firearms.

>> > Best,

>> > Frances

>> >

>> > michele mason wrote:

>> >> This sounds like gone too far. I am a gun carrier and do want the

>> >> right

>> >> to shoot anyone who breaks in to my place, or is menacing my land.

>> >> I've

>> >> had some scary close calls. So far, a warning shot seems to keep

>> >> "them"

>> >> away, but I'm still alert. I want to be sure I'm not signing 

>> something

>> >> that might hinder my rights.

>> >> We even had one guy driving by to shoot horses! He fired at mine, 

>> but

>> >> missed. He did manage to kill several in Bastrop co. I don't know 

>> that

>> >> they ever caught him. We couldn't shoot back, not even to disable 

>> his

>> >> car because he was "on the roadway". If this bill gives me that 

>> right,

>> >> I can't oppose it. Need more info. mm

>> >>

>> >> On Dec 7, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Frances Morey wrote:

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > StopTheNRA wrote:Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006

>> >> > 15:25:47 -0600 (CST)

>> >> >> From: StopTheNRA

>> >> >> To: frances_morey at yahoo.com

>> >> >> Subject: Texas: Help Stop Shoot First!

>> >> >>

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>> >> be

>> >> >> shot in the crossfire. The shooter does not have to prove their

>> >> >> life was in danger, but only that they “reasonably” felt their 

>> life

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