[AGL] Fwd: Texas: Stop Shoot First Shooter in his tire tracks...

[michele mason]

Inadmissable? I think not. I, too, can say what I believe. He wasn't a 
Trooper. Who thought that up? Bias showing. Oprah, poor child, has many 
limitations.
Inadmissable? You can take me off your list, but you cannot give me 
permission to speak.
You might see the word "perhaps". How about "might". These imply 
suggestion, I think. Or, perhaps I'm not educated to the inth degree.
Inadmissable? Thems fightin words perp, besides misspelled.

best,  Michele

On Dec 9, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:


> Michele,

>

> i can decide just as much as you what is Christian

> and what is not. ridiculous and inadmissable for you to say i cannot.

>

> if you love to see perps beat up by DPS troopers

> dont expect others not to judge your morality and

> find it sorely wanting. Oprah would agree with me.

>

> best,

>

> Mike

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "michele mason" <yaya.m at earthlink.net>

> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 11:14 AM

> Subject: Re: [AGL] Fwd: Texas: Stop Shoot First Shooter in his tire

> tracks...

>

>

> No, he didn't, but I would love to see it done to a horse-killer.

> Perhaps you might stay away from deciding what is Christian, but of

> course you can continue to use it as a fall back to something you don't

> like. Lots of people who know little about Christianity do. No time for

> debate today. Maybe when real stuff is done. Okay?  mm

>

> On Dec 9, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:

>

>> Michele,

>>

>> your son the DPS trooper beat the snot out of a perp?

>>

>> that is so unChristian of you. i dont know how you

>> reconcile this in your mind, much less say it openly.

>>

>> Mike

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "michele mason" <yaya.m at earthlink.net>

>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:10 AM

>> Subject: Re: [AGL] Fwd: Texas: Stop Shoot First Shooter in his tire

>> tracks...

>>

>>

>> As explained by the deputy who came: It is not illegal to fire off

>> road, but under no condition is it legal to fire onto the road—even in

>> self-defense. While I think the horse-killer deserved to die, I would

>> rather have disabled the car, if just to ask why? does this sick jerk

>> do this. Besides, provided he ran without the gun, I would have

>> thoroughly enjoyed watching my son run him down and beat the snot 

>> outta

>> him. mm

>>

>> On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Frances Morey wrote:

>>

>>> Hell, I'da shot at the horse drive-by shooter's car. If his defense

>>> would have been that he was shooting horses I would have said I was

>>> standing by the horse and thought he was shooting at me! I grew up

>>> with guns, too, even beat another kid at the hunting camp in a target

>>> shooting face off--he had won a ribbon in Boy Scout camp outshooting

>>> 500 other scouts. My dad was really proud of me. His dad gathered him

>>> up and they left hunting camp early.

>>> It's like this with me and guns, if you introduce a gun in a movie

>>> script at some point it has to be fired before the end of the movie. 

>>> I

>>> feel that if the potential is there, at some point it will be used,

>>> sometimes by the intruder--so I just as soon not have them or keep

>>> them.

>>> Once the bullets start flying and the scene is scattered with bodies

>>> it is moot to talk about who shot first. I try to avoid gun totin'

>>> neighborhoods. That's probably just a delusion.

>>> When Whitman happened guns came out of the woodwork all over the 

>>> place

>>> even though the students were at that time forbidden to keep 

>>> firearms.

>>> Best,

>>> Frances

>>>

>>> michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>> This sounds like gone too far. I am a gun carrier and do want the

>>>> right

>>>> to shoot anyone who breaks in to my place, or is menacing my land.

>>>> I've

>>>> had some scary close calls. So far, a warning shot seems to keep

>>>> "them"

>>>> away, but I'm still alert. I want to be sure I'm not signing

>>>> something

>>>> that might hinder my rights.

>>>> We even had one guy driving by to shoot horses! He fired at mine, 

>>>> but

>>>> missed. He did manage to kill several in Bastrop co. I don't know

>>>> that

>>>> they ever caught him. We couldn't shoot back, not even to disable 

>>>> his

>>>> car because he was "on the roadway". If this bill gives me that

>>>> right,

>>>> I can't oppose it. Need more info. mm

>>>>

>>>> On Dec 7, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Frances Morey wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> StopTheNRA wrote:Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006

>>>>> 15:25:47 -0600 (CST)

>>>>>> From: StopTheNRA

>>>>>> To: frances_morey at yahoo.com

>>>>>> Subject: Texas: Help Stop Shoot First!

>>>>>>

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