[AGL] Frida and Froggy (her pet name for him)

[Fontaine Maverick]

I started having a problem with the conversation when Gerry used the word 
seduction - Christina seduced Diego- c'mon! I think Diego must have been a 
fascinating man (of course, I am relying on my Alfred Molina experience of 
him, but also my feelings about his painting). Had I been Christina, I might 
have taken my knickers off....in spite of my filial devotion to my sister..

But Frances' notion that Christina was a passive victim is troubling to me. 
In fact, I got a problem with characterizing women as victims in most 
situations. Unless the man in question uses his physical strength, or the 
woman is intellectually impaired, then each is an adult in the equation.

And Mike, bohemian college girls in the sixties went out of their way to 
shock. Your girlfriend was  trying to impress you. Yes, women can get as 
horny as men can (although none of us can truly know what the opposite 
gender experiences.) But rape of men by women is rather rare doncha think?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele at ando.pair.com>
To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s" 
<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AGL] Frida and Froggy (her pet name for him)



> Frances,

>

> It's the same for women. Getting wet is the same as a hard on. A girl

> friend of mine many moons ago told me that when we first met, and as she

> was watching me suck on the end of a Scripto mechanical pencil, she

> felt her cunt open. This was in the Brooklyn College equivalent of the

> Chuck Wagon.

>

> Only difference is it isnt visible or feelable if dancing or embracing.

> And adolescent boys often prefer to keep their excitement private

> and are embarassed to show it.

>

> The Scripto pencil will help in dating this episode.

>

> So next time you're dancing and you feel his boner, feel free to

> Kerry Awn.

>

> Mike

>

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Frances Morey" <frances_morey at yahoo.com>

>

>> Gerr, Gerr, Gerr,

>>  There is no such thing as seducing a man against-his-will--since having 

>> a

>> hard-on is equivalent to implied consent.

>>  Frances

>>

>> Gerry <mesmo at gilanet.com> wrote:

>>  Yes, and how are we to know if it wasn't Christina who seduced Diego?

>> Takes

>> 2 to tango. I've never understood the logic of jealous husbands shooting

>> the

>> guy who screwed their wife instead of shooting the wife. After all, it 

>> was

>> she who took the vow and then violated it...

>> G