[AGL] NAACP shameful?

michele mason yaya.m at earthlink.net
Sat Dec 2 08:30:44 EST 2006


Georgie aside. No, they don't. Nor do they have any idea about the most
important basis for it.
I do. I fly it—right beside my Black Power flag. Heritage—not hate. My
mixed family is generally supportive after I gave them the more
complicated history for it. mm

On Nov 30, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Jon Ford wrote:


> Michele-- Well that clears things up pretty well! I now understand why

> George W. Bush is reluctant to attend their meanings-- they don't even

> respect the Confederate Flag!

>

> Jon

>

>> From:  michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net>

>> Reply-To:  survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>> 60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>> To:  survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>> 60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>> Subject:  Re: [AGL] NAACP shameful?

>> Date:  Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:34:26 -0600

>> >Jon, the answer may be a bit long for the time I have just now, but  

>> >I'll give a few. Lack of objectivity—no research, just

>> >obstructive. Cry  boohoo about the police regardless of the truth.

>> >Consider the so-called  "kid" who was out after 2 am in a stolen

>> >car—whose girlfriend called  the police claiming domestic violence

>> >(the most dangerous of all calls  for the police). He refuses to get

>> >out of the car, or cut off the motor  and then traps police arm in

>> >car window and proceeds to drive away,  dragging the cop who then

>> >shot him. His mother wails he's a good boy,  always home, etc. NAACP

>> >screams "Police Brutality". Sometimes its true,  other times, not.

>> >NAACP chooses the former EVERY time. "Hello" the  community needs

>> >them to mentor values. Instead,

>> >spend worthless time to get 40 acres and the mule ($). No way to  

>> >determine who, how much, how to deliver—just another boohoo.

>> >Lack of constructive  effort to set-up programs for youth; single,  

>> >"child" mothers; education; self-esteem; values, practical life

>> >skills.

>> >Last meetings I witnessed were about the best hat and most

>> >fashionable.  No notice of the poor—no affiliations with

>> >organizations trying to  remedy problems. Racist, ill-mannered

>> >children. No quest for real  history, for instance, Uncle Tom was

>> >the hero of the story. Faint, or  scream at the site of Confederate

>> >Battle Flag without any idea of the  true nature of The War Between

>> >The States. No open ideas about  heritage—not hate.

>> >Unable/unwilling to place their thinking in the time  period.

>> >(Highly recommend 3 vol set by Shelby Foote—the South's best  and

>> >most truthful historian on the subject)

>> >No concern for peoples of other colors, say, red, for instance.  

>> >Just  snippets  mm

>> >

>> >On Nov 29, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Jon Ford wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >>Michele-- Why would you consider NAACP a "shameful" org today? Are  

>> >>they too radical or not radical enough? Uncle Toms or Malcolm Xs?

>> >>On  the take? What's the deal?

>> >>

>> >>Jon

>> >>

>> >>>From: michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net>

>> >>>Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>> >>>  60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>> >>>To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the  

>> >>>60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>> >>>Subject: Re: [AGL] The OVERTONS! I wanna know more about this...

>> >>>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:26:57 -0600

>> >>>

>> >>>I forgot to mention Volma Overton. What a lovely, humble,

>> >>>persistent  man. We worked together a good deal. I was so glad I

>> >>>decided to call  him the week before he passed. He wanted to show

>> >>>me his book and  introduce me to his publisher since I'm writing a

>> >>>similar memoir  about working for civil rights in Shreveport. I'm

>> >>>so sorry we didn't  make that meeting, but just so happy to have

>> >>>known the kind of man  who's hard to find these days. The "new"

>> >>>NAACP is shameful—that's my  opinion and I'm stickin to it.  mm

>> >>>

>> >>>On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Frances Morey wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>>Cute story, Michele,

>> >>>>What an interesting job for your mom!

>> >>>>Best,

>> >>>>Frances

>> >>>>

>> >>>>michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net> wrote:

>> >>>>>Mom was amazing!

>> >>>>>Once when I was working with the Overtons; singing-in at City  

>> >>>>>council,

>> >>>>>a photog from (Texas Ranger?) got a pix of Mrs. Overton, Margo

>> >>>>>and

>> >>>>>myself front page. Someone in Mother's office waited for her to

>> >>>>>go  to

>> >>>>>lunch and folded it carefully to the picture and propped it up

>> >>>>>on  her

>> >>>>>desk. She came home crying, afraid to lose her job. I was

>> >>>>>grounded  of

>> >>>>>course.

>> >>>>>It is so sad what Alzheimer can do to such a remarkable person.

>> >>>>>mm

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:07 AM, Jon Ford wrote:

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> > Michelle-- that is some serious power. Also a test of moral  

>> >>>>>stamina!

>> >>>>> >

>> >>>>> > Jon

>> >>>>> >

>> >>>>> >

>> >>>>> >> From: michele mason

>> >>>>> >> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze

>> >>>>>in  the

>> >>>>> >> 60s

>> >>>>> >> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the

>> >>>>> >> 60s

>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AGL] Figi House & Casino Royale

>> >>>>> >> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:52:38 -0600

>> >>>>> >>

>> >>>>> >> My mom was in the Gov's Budget Division. From Shivers to

>> >>>>>Brisco,  she

>> >>>>> >> purchased everything that went to the Govs mansion, as well

>> >>>>>as

>> >>>>> >> airplanes, etc. Nelley Connally (sp?) made her

>> >>>>>crazy—spending  like no

>> >>>>> >> tomorrow. mm

>> >>>>> >>

>> >>>>> >> On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Jon Ford wrote:

>> >>>>> >>

>> >>>>> >>> Yes it was Dolph-- typo. I think my father worked for him

>> >>>>>too at

>> >>>>> >>> some point-- he was Press Secretary to a lot of Texas  

>> >>>>>governors. He

>> >>>>> >>> knew everyone in Texas politics, and still hangs out with

>> >>>>>some  of

>> >>>>> >>> the old-timers.

>> >>>>> >>>

>> >>>>> >>> Jon

>> >>>>> >>>

>> >>>>> >>>

>> >>>>> >>>> From: michele mason

>> >>>>> >>>> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto

>> >>>>>Daze in  the

>> >>>>> >>>> 60s

>> >>>>> >>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in

>> >>>>>the

>> >>>>> >>>> 60s

>> >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] Figi House & Casino Royale

>> >>>>> >>>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:58:24 -0600

>> >>>>> >>>>

>> >>>>> >>>> Wasn't that "Dolph"? He was the last gov my mom worked

>> >>>>>for. mm

>> >>>>> >>>>

>> >>>>> >>>> On Nov 20, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Jon Ford wrote:

>> >>>>> >>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>> Micael-- Are you speaking of Doph Briscoe, onetime

>> >>>>>governor of

>> >>>>> >>>>> Texas? As a child,age about 14, I spent a pleasant time

>> >>>>> >>>>> recuperating from the notorious Mexican "tourista bug" at

>> >>>>>his

>> >>>>> >>>>> family's desolate ranch in South Texas. This was the only

>> >>>>>  time I

>> >>>>> >>>>> ever "went Texas," but I was unfortunately unable to

>> >>>>>climb

>> >>>>> >>>>> aboard any gigantic longhorn steers or rope any broncos

>> >>>>>as I  was

>> >>>>> >>>>> sick as a dog the whole week.

>> >>>>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>> Jon Ford

>> >>>>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: micael at micaelpriest.com

>> >>>>> >>>>>> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto

>> >>>>>Daze  in

>> >>>>> >>>>>> the 60s

>> >>>>> >>>>>> To: austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net

>> >>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [AGL] Figi House & Casino Royale

>> >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:14:52 -0600

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>> FIGI house is at 27th and Whitis, big white colonial...i

>> >>>>> >>>>>> lived next door at the Rhea house in 69 ,3 or 4 doors

>> >>>>>down  from

>> >>>>> >>>>>> the Campus Guild(Socialist dorm with the constantly

>> >>>>>running  LSD

>> >>>>> >>>>>> driven Bridge Game). FIGI's had the toga partys all

>> >>>>>right.  fixt

>> >>>>> >>>>>> em up with a little herb from time to time. all ex

>> >>>>>highschool

>> >>>>> >>>>>> jocks though and generally pretty thick. We got in a

>> >>>>>snowball

>> >>>>> >>>>>> war withem the one time it snowed that winter, we

>> >>>>>whipped  their

>> >>>>> >>>>>> asses, they responded by shooting an arrow through one

>> >>>>>of our

>> >>>>> >>>>>> guys' window upstairs with a note on it claiming

>> >>>>>victory.  Bill

>> >>>>> >>>>>> Narum's Dad was a FIGI, his roomate was Dolf Briscoe, i

>> >>>>>knew

>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dolf was a football player but i was a little mystified

>> >>>>>about

>> >>>>> >>>>>> what kinda jock mr. Narum might have been...he was a

>> >>>>>fencer.  I

>> >>>>> >>>>>> was a fencer at UT freshman and senior year. still have

>> >>>>>the

>> >>>>> >>>>>> back 3/4ths of my foil.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>> As i recall, the first Casino Royale was a send up of

>> >>>>>Bond

>> >>>>> >>>>>> movies...maybe w/ Peter Sellers?

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>> aidedoo,

>> >>>>> >>>>>> micael priest

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>> austin-ghetto-list-request at pairlist.net writes:

>> >>>>> >>>>>>

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>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Re: movie intro, don't go without a quality check

>> >>>>>(Wayne

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Johnson)

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Re: movie intro, don't go without a quality check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> (Fontaine Maverick)

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Re: movie intro, don't go without a quality check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> (Frances Morey)

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Movies (Igor Loving)

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>  

>> >>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> -- -- -

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Message: 1

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:57:06 -0500

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Wayne Johnson"

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a

>> >>>>>quality  check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze

>> >>>>>in  the

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 60s"

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Message-ID:

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>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> The only frat that had really good toga parties were

>> >>>>>the  Fijis.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> wgJ

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Fontaine Maverick

>> >>>>>To:

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in

>> >>>>>the 60s

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:51 PM

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a

>> >>>>>quality

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Oh-my-god, Frances. I bet you have never been to a  

>> >>>>>fraternity

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> toga party! ----- Original Message ----- From: Frances

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Morey To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto

>> >>>>>Daze

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> in the 60s Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 7:11 PM

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a

>> >>>>>quality

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I've put rotten tomatoes into my favorites file, for

>> >>>>>future

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> reference. I trust what ordinary people say about

>> >>>>>movies  more

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> than I do critics or other industry types practicing

>> >>>>>hype.  PF

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> seemed to me like the very definition of sacrilege.  

>> >>>>>Antipathy

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> to religion was what made it so popular but violence

>> >>>>>for the

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> sake of violence, shock value, fundamental disrespect

>> >>>>>for an

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> institution offends me. The military and fraternities

>> >>>>>were

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> originally established to teach men how to be men

>> >>>>>however  one

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> became "selective" [read: enlist the already civilized

>> >>>>>who

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> don't need such training] and the other a model for

>> >>>>>Animal

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> House [read: drunken druggies disrespectfully acting

>> >>>>>out

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> towards women and society.] Religions were "organized"

>> >>>>>to

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> discourage "sin" whatever that is thought to be, past

>> >>>>>and

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> present. Now no one is teaching males how to be men,

>> >>>>>women  are

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> in ascendancy in the education and the professions

>> >>>>>because

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> women seem to have better instincts for applying

>> >>>>>themselves  to

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> learning and having s

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> uccess in school training for the professions.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I used to brag that, without sin, I will go straight to

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> heaven when I die since I have never had an abortion

>> >>>>>nor got

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> paid for having sex. I have no regrets about the

>> >>>>>former.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Frances

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Fontaine Maverick wrote:

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Borat? Not sure why you found PF reprehensible, but I

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> don't think Borat is the same type of movie (I haven't

>> >>>>>seen

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> it) It is a comedy, for one thing - but the tomatometer

>> >>>>>is

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> currently at 92%.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Rotten Tomatoes is an excellent source of movie reviews

>> >>>>>-

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> usually over 100 of them for each movie.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.rottentomatoes.com/

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> And Internet Movie Data Base is great for looking up

>> >>>>>stuff

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> when you can't remember the name of some actor, or want

>> >>>>>to

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> know what year something was made, etc.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> And I just found out that Casino Royale is NOT a remake

>> >>>>>in

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the Broccoli tradition, though it was once done as a

>> >>>>>comedy.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> It is the first Bond novel that Broccoli ever wrote.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Frances Morey

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze

>> >>>>>in

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the 60s Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 5:55 PM

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] have empathy with the whole wide

>> >>>>>world

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Fontaine,

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> What does the tomatometer register for that B movie

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Simmons was raving about now showing at the Alamo  

>> >>>>>Drafthouse?

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Borok, or something like that, is the name. I don't

>> >>>>>think  I'll

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> like it in the same way that I found Pulp Fiction

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> reprehensible. Frances

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>  

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>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Message: 2

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:16:11 -0600

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Fontaine Maverick"

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a

>> >>>>>quality  check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze

>> >>>>>in  the

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 60s"

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Message-ID: <004801c70c62$fe36c8c0$6800a8c0 at NEWFONT>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I dated one frat guy, and the frat was much like animal

>> >>>>>  house -

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> strong non-conformist thread running through the

>> >>>>>membership-

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> they had a house south of campus - an old granite  

>> >>>>>castle-like

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> place. Went to one toga party.Don't think it was Fiji,  

>> >>>>>though.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Johnson To:

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in

>> >>>>>the 60s

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:57 PM

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a

>> >>>>>quality

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> The only frat that had really good toga parties were

>> >>>>>the  Fijis.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> wgj

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>> >>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Message: 3

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:31:22 -0800 (PST)

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> From: Frances Morey

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a

>> >>>>>quality  check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze

>> >>>>>in  the 60s

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Message-ID: <779288.871.qm at web34615.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> No, but I did go skinny dipping once.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Frances

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Fontaine Maverick wrote:

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Oh-my-god, Frances. I bet you have never been to a

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> fraternity toga party! ----- Original Message -----

>> >>>>>From:

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Frances Morey To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Ghetto Daze in the 60s Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006

>> >>>>>7:11

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> PM

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] movie intro, don't go without a

>> >>>>>quality

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> check

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I've put rotten tomatoes into my favorites file, for

>> >>>>>future

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> reference. I trust what ordinary people say about

>> >>>>>movies  more

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> than I do critics or other industry types practicing

>> >>>>>hype.  PF

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> seemed to me like the very definition of sacrilege.  

>> >>>>>Antipathy

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> to religion was what made it so popular but violence

>> >>>>>for the

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> sake of violence, shock value, fundamental disrespect

>> >>>>>for an

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> institution offends me. The military and fraternities

>> >>>>>were

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> originally established to teach men how to be men

>> >>>>>however  one

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> became "selective" [read: enlist the already civilized

>> >>>>>who

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> don't need such training] and the other a model for

>> >>>>>Animal

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> House [read: drunken druggies disrespectfully acting

>> >>>>>out

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> towards women and society.] Religions were "organized"

>> >>>>>to

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> discourage "sin" whatever that is thought to be, past

>> >>>>>and

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> present. Now no one is teaching males how to be men,

>> >>>>>women  are

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> in ascendancy in the education and the professions

>> >>>>>because

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> women seem to have better instincts for applying

>> >>>>>themselves  to

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> learning and having

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> success in school training for the professions.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I used to brag that, without sin, I will go straight to

>> >>>>>  heaven

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> when I die since I have never had an abortion nor got

>> >>>>>paid  for

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> having sex. I have no regrets about the former.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Frances

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Fontaine Maverick wrote:

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Borat? Not sure why you found PF reprehensible, but I

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> don't think Borat is the same type of movie (I haven't

>> >>>>>seen  it)

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> It is a comedy, for one thing - but the tomatometer is

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> currently at 92%.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Rotten Tomatoes is an excellent source of movie reviews

>> >>>>>-

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> usually over 100 of them for each movie.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.rottentomatoes.com/

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> And Internet Movie Data Base is great for looking up

>> >>>>>stuff

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> when you can't remember the name of some actor, or want

>> >>>>>to  know

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> what year something was made, etc.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> And I just found out that Casino Royale is NOT a remake

>> >>>>>in

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the Broccoli tradition, though it was once done as a  

>> >>>>>comedy. It

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> is the first Bond novel that Broccoli ever wrote.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Frances Morey

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze

>> >>>>>in the

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 60s Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 5:55 PM

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] have empathy with the whole wide

>> >>>>>world

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Fontaine,

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> What does the tomatometer register for that B movie

>> >>>>>Simmons

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> was raving about now showing at the Alamo Drafthouse?

>> >>>>>Borok,

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> or something like that, is the name. I don't think I'll

>> >>>>>like

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> it in the same way that I found Pulp Fiction

>> >>>>>reprehensible.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Frances

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

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>> >>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Message: 4

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:17:38 -0600

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Igor Loving"

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: [AGL] Movies

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> To: austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Message-ID:

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, Oh, Movies. The last one I saw was some Indian

>> >>>>>thing at

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Alamo Draft House that came with Indian Food, before

>> >>>>>that  was

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> some stupid thing about penguinos marching around in

>> >>>>>the  snow.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Not much of a movie freak and I never ever rent the

>> >>>>>things.  I

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> have a collection of movies in boxes that have been  

>> >>>>>gathering

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> dust for years and years and my computer has over sixty

>> >>>>>five

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> movies in memory. Real gems I am sure.

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Charlie Loving

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>>>>>

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