[AGL] I have in my private hands a public list...
michele mason
yaya.m at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 24 11:43:02 EST 2006
I had a good deal of "surveilance" after I wrote Reagan a bitter,
bloody, threatening letter. And actually got a hand-written response
addressing nothing. mm
On Nov 18, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Gerry wrote:
> I think the impetus for the "surveilance" and other under cover
> operations was primarily due to the fact that LBJ, a Texan, was
> president so the federal presence in the capitol city was heightened
> because of both the VietNam war and the strong demonstrations against
> it.
>
> You're close, Frances. Don't forget that the previous president had
> been assassinated by an apparent Leftist and security was strong
> everywhere LBJ went. The Leftist presence in Austin was considered a
> potential threat, lots of potential Oswalds on the campus in the eyes
> of the Commie haters who dominated the law enforcement
> establishment. The ultimate moment came when the national media, in
> Austin to cover LBJ who was at the ranch, had some down time and
> decided to cover a peace rally on campus. It was a big rally (during
> the University Freedom Movement days) in the spring of '67. Erwin
> made an appearance and threatened to fire faculty and expel students
> who were "making trouble". And it was all covered by the networks and
> broadcast to America. It established Austin as a center of protest and
> the ranks of the underground began to swell. It also radicalized a lot
> of UT students who had been sitting on the fence. Thank you CBS, ABC,
> and NBC...I think they were all there???
>
> A few years later the underground was so large in Austin and so many
> children of the power brokers were getting busted that they (law)
> finally threw up their hands and let it grow. In a sense the battle of
> Austin had been won and for several years following (until the growth
> ate it all up) it was the new utopia.
> G
>
>
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Frances Morey
>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AGL] I have in my private hands a public list...
>>
>> Mike,
>> Around the time you mentioned there was a publication at UT called
>> the "Riata" in which stories of peyote use were written up for all to
>> read. I'm sure this might have attested to the drug use allegations
>> about the individuals on those lists.
>> I think the impetus for the "surveilance" and other under cover
>> operations was primarily due to the fact that LBJ, a Texan, was
>> president so the federal presence in the capitol city was heightened
>> because of both the VietNam war and the strong demonstrations against
>> it.
>> Remember Frank Erwin calling the students the "Dirty Nothings"? That
>> was then, too.
>> While there is curiousity about knowing the names on the list, there
>> is always the possibility that there could be repercussions. There is
>> some truth to the fact that being accused is just as bad as being
>> convicted. It's like touching a tar baby. Proving that one is not
>> guilty is hard to do, and then there is the guilt by association
>> phenomenon. I recommend that the list not be published on this list.
>> You can always send hard copies to interested parties like BBBBBB.
>> Best,
>> Frances
>> Frances
>>
>> Michael Eisenstadt <michaele at ando.pair.com> wrote:
>>> Thorne,
>>>
>>> I believe that this list was unearthed or shaken loose
>>> by Sarah Clark Moriaty when she was working
>>> at UT, i disremember its aetiology. You might ask Dave M if he can
>>> supply
>>> more details.
>>>
>>> I don't know its legal status or in what sense it is
>>> a "public document." Copies of it were xeroxed
>>> and distributed at one or another Ghetto Re-onion.
>>>
>>> I am bi-curious as to who Helen Yarborough might
>>> be. Perhaps she has written up her amorous encounters
>>> with Ghettoistas committed under the influence of
>>> peyote and folk music.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "thorne dreyer"
>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] I have in my hands a list of 82 names
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I'd like to see it. Wonder whose files it came from. What did the
>>> cover
>>> say? The stuff onlike should be everything from Hamilton's files,
>>> but we
>>> had to work fast in dallas with two scanners, etc, something could
>>> have been
>>> missed. Nothing in Hamilton's files requires permission because it's
>>> public.
>>>
>>> Thorne
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Michael Eisenstadt
>>> To: austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:31:50 PM
>>> Subject: [AGL] I have in my hands a list of 82 names
>>>
>>>
>>> Thorne,
>>>
>>> I have in my hands a 6 page list (with a cover page)
>>> of Ghettoistas and Ghetto sympathizers, 82 names
>>> in all, apparently compiled in 1964.
>>>
>>> (Parenthetically the pyschiatrists' report on the collective
>>> psychology of Ghettoistas which you reproduced made
>>> amusing reading).
>>>
>>> As it was not reproduced in the Texas Observer archive,
>>> you must not have seen our list.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, there are at least a half a dozen current
>>> subscribers to AGL who are named and you would
>>> have had to ask permission of all of them to reproduce
>>> the list.
>>>
>>> Reading over the names again, I wonder if the Wayne
>>> Smith on this list would be the same ole codger who
>>> lives near Bastrop and who left this list in a huff?
>>>
>>> Also who is Helen Yarborough? She is identified as
>>> "sexually promiscuous" by the guy in the white socks
>>> who infiltrated the Ghetto partays. Sometimes
>>> redundancy is ever-so-telling. For example, the first
>>> line of Gay Talese's immortal classic Thy Neighbor's
>>> Wife, reads "She was completely naked!"
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
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