[AGL] I have an idea about how to get to see Burt;'s papers

Frances Morey frances_morey at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 18 23:52:13 EST 2006


Just like Economidy wanting to talk, I'd bet if Bert Gerding were approached by Thorne, and asked for an interview, he might be happy with the attention. During the interview Thorne could broach the subject about gaining access to the collection now, for research
purposes, instead of waiting for him to die, he might agree to it.
Best,
Frances

Wayne Johnson <cadaobh at shentel.net> wrote:
Why wouldn't a legit Journalist, such as Thorne, be able to gain access to
this material? Why is it any different then say, looking at old oil
scandals or political machinations of the Fergusons, etc. etc. History is
history and data is data.

Yes?

No?

wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim McCulloch"
To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AGL] I have in my hands a list of 82 names



> There is (or was a few years ago) a file of documents and photographs

> residing in the Center for American History which had been inveigled loose

> from either Gann or Gerding, I forget which of them, similar to Hamilton's

> stuff. But the photos were different. I looked through the box of

> photos. There were lots of them. From memory it seems like they were

> mostly of surveilled political demonstrations and parades, but some of

> the same cast of characters as those in the Hamilton photos. It's been a

> while, and my memory is fuzzy. I suspect you'd have a hard time getting

> access to these materials, because apparently they were either given to UT

> with strings attached, or maybe there was a question of the legality of

> UT's possession of them. I don't remember the details now. It's be

> interesting to try to see them. I know they were there, and probably

> still are.

>

> --Jim McCulloch

>

>

> Michael Eisenstadt wrote:

>> Thorne,

>>

>> I believe that this list was unearthed or shaken loose

>> by Sarah Clark Moriaty when she was working

>> at UT, i disremember its aetiology. You might ask Dave M if he can supply

>> more details.

>>

>> I don't know its legal status or in what sense it is

>> a "public document." Copies of it were xeroxed

>> and distributed at one or another Ghetto Re-onion.

>>

>> I am bi-curious as to who Helen Yarborough might

>> be. Perhaps she has written up her amorous encounters

>> with Ghettoistas committed under the influence of

>> peyote and folk music.

>>

>> Mike

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "thorne dreyer"

>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

>>

>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:41 PM

>> Subject: Re: [AGL] I have in my hands a list of 82 names

>>

>>

>> Mike,

>>

>> I'd like to see it. Wonder whose files it came from. What did the cover

>> say? The stuff onlike should be everything from Hamilton's files, but

>> we had to work fast in dallas with two scanners, etc, something could

>> have been missed. Nothing in Hamilton's files requires permission

>> because it's public.

>>

>> Thorne

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----

>> From: Michael Eisenstadt

>> To: austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net

>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:31:50 PM

>> Subject: [AGL] I have in my hands a list of 82 names

>>

>>

>> Thorne,

>>

>> I have in my hands a 6 page list (with a cover page)

>> of Ghettoistas and Ghetto sympathizers, 82 names

>> in all, apparently compiled in 1964.

>>

>> (Parenthetically the pyschiatrists' report on the collective

>> psychology of Ghettoistas which you reproduced made

>> amusing reading).

>>

>> As it was not reproduced in the Texas Observer archive,

>> you must not have seen our list.

>>

>> Unfortunately, there are at least a half a dozen current

>> subscribers to AGL who are named and you would

>> have had to ask permission of all of them to reproduce

>> the list.

>>

>> Reading over the names again, I wonder if the Wayne

>> Smith on this list would be the same ole codger who

>> lives near Bastrop and who left this list in a huff?

>>

>> Also who is Helen Yarborough? She is identified as

>> "sexually promiscuous" by the guy in the white socks

>> who infiltrated the Ghetto partays. Sometimes

>> redundancy is ever-so-telling. For example, the first

>> line of Gay Talese's immortal classic Thy Neighbor's

>> Wife, reads "She was completely naked!"

>>

>> Mike

>>

>

>






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