outlasting Kinky Friedman, Lance can...

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Charlie Loving



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From:  <i>Frances Morey &lt;frances_morey at yahoo.com&gt;</i><br>Reply-To:  
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<br><div>I can't see KF in a gay bar--he's not hipster enough. Some men 
remain soles because they have neither the capacity to please ANY woman 
enough for her to care what happens to them, or enough money to lure a women 
into pretending that she does. </div>
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<div>Question of the morning: Why do women have to &quot;fake&quot; 
orgasm?</div>
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<div>FM<br><br><b><i>Forrest Gunter &lt;fpgunter at hotmail.com&gt;</i></b> 
wrote:</div>
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solid">Seekers: <br>Are all y'all, maybe in later msgs., aware of the 
<br>phenom of adult male Soles hiding behind the anonymity of hanging out in 
gay <br>bars, thereby tacitly but passively acquiescing to being categorized 
as gay, <br>when really they're just too sensitive to be able to handle the 
<br>vulnerability inherent in reaching out, much less in actually competing 
for <br>the affections of other humanoids, of whichever gender or gender 
<br>identification. It's tough out here.<br>Still Telling Noah About the 
Flood Here From Mt. Arafat,<br>The 3,000 Year Old Man<br><br>&gt;From: 
&quot;Michael Eisenstadt&quot; <br>&gt;Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences 
about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s <br>&gt;<br>&gt;To: &quot;survivors' 
reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s&quot; 
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Subject: Re: outi
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<br>&gt;FILETIME=[17489470:01C5A462]<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Jon,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Yes 
there are folks who never become sexually<br>&gt;active, I think of ex mayor 
Ed Koch of NYC<br>&gt;who was a Liberal/Republican congressman<br>&gt;before 
serving as mayor. But I have a theory<br>&gt;about that. First, you render 
Kinsey's famous<br>&gt;scale from totally hetero to totally homo in 
a<br>&gt;very humerous way. You seem to think that<br>&gt;somewhere on the
Kinsey
scale there is a place<br>&gt;for those with no sexual preference at all. 
Maybe<br>&gt;on some other scale, not Kinsey's The midpoint of<br>&gt;his 
scale, for example, is the perfect bisexual,<br>&gt;desirous sex with men as 
much as with women.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;My theory is that there the non-sexual 
person<br>&gt;has repressed his/her sexuality for one reason<br>&gt;or 
another.The sexuality repressed or not is<br>&gt;a given of the human 
condition.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Mike<br>&gt;<br>&gt;----- Original Message 
-----<br>&gt;From: &quot;Jon Ford&quot; <br>&gt;To: <br>&gt;Sent: Thursday, 
August 18, 2005 8:17 PM<br>&gt;Subject: Re: outing Kinky 
Friedman<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; To be heterosexual you 
have to consort with&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; women, right? But Kinky doesnt have 
girl&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; friends, never has. It seems to me that he 
has&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; successfully dealt with his lack of being&gt;<br>&gt; 
&gt; attra
cted by
women. Instead he has a cat. &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Mike-- You might 
be right about Kinky, although I know several <br>&gt;spinsterish<br>&gt; 
&gt; women (the stereotypical old maid school teachers) whose only companion 
<br>&gt;is<br>&gt;a<br>&gt; &gt; cat or &quot;mini-dog.&quot; Does this make 
them closet lesbians? I think there <br>&gt;are<br>&gt; &gt; people who are 
sort of sexually neutral or neuter without necesarily<br>&gt;being<br>&gt; 
&gt; gays in the closet. I like Alfred Kinsey's view of sexuality, that it's 
<br>&gt;a<br>&gt; &gt; continuum from highly hetero all the way to highly 
gay, with many stages<br>&gt;in<br>&gt; &gt; between.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; 
&gt; Jon<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br></blockquote>
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