Fresh Air - on the radio - voting

Igor Loving lovingigor at hotmail.com
Mon May 2 21:33:28 EDT 2005


Living has nothing to do with privilage at all. Living is controled by 
instinct. There are biological laws that apply. Man can not for example 
ignore the law of gravitation or disobey the law of gavity. aif you leave 
him unsupported in air he will fall like a stone. As an organism, he is 
subjected to various biological laws  which he can not disobey any more than 
any other animal can. He breaths, he sleeps and eats. Man also reproduces by 
an instinct.

There is a Law or Rule about Right and Wrong which used to be called the Law 
of nature. Today, when you sepak of the "laws of nature" we mean chemistry 
and physics and such. But the Greeks called the Law of Nature the Law of 
Human Nature. That was an idea that everyone really knew what was right and 
wrong. The truth is that we do believe in what is decent behavior but we 
don't seem to be able to abide by it. Moral law could actually be a herd 
instinct. Each herd has its own set. Each group is haunted by  the idea that 
they ought to behave in a certain way, be moral but infact they don't.

So if it is known that smoking is bad and it is known why do people smoke? 
Is tobacco that good? I really doubt it. As a reformed smoker I wouldn't 
cross the street for a cigarette or pay a dime for a joint. I would take a 
toke for free but that doesn't count. And I would smoke a Cuban cigar if 
someone gave me one. Gave being the operative word. A Cuban cigar is 
possibly a reason to smoke. A package of Delicados or Faros is a good reason 
to quit. In fact I suggest that to quit smoking everyone smoke Delicados or 
Simbas. Simbas were the brand that got me to quit. I always looked  for the 
worst cigarette available and the one with no filter.  Of course Kents might 
have made the worst list and I know Wings did.

So, Light up a Lucky;
it's light up time;
be happy smoke Lucky;
it's light up time,
for the taste that you like,
light up a Lucky Strike,
it's light up time.
LSMFT means fine tobbaco.



Charlie Loving



>From: Clark Santos <clarksantos at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s 
<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>To: Remembrances of Austin Ghetto 
<GHETTO2 at LISTS.WHATHELPS.COM>,survivors' reminiscences about Austin 
Ghetto Daze in the 60s <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>Subject: Re: Fresh Air - on the radio - voting
>Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 15:38:23 -0500
>
>Living is a privilege, not a right. Lets operate more like a humane
>society or glue factory and get rid of all the gimps and stove-ups
>who live in the beautiful hotel owned "Restful Villas" or 
"Garden
>Heights" as a blow to greedy doctors, drug companies and corporate
>profiteers. This process will help Social Security, Medicare,
>Medicaid, and provide many nice parking places close to the doors of
>all enterprises.
>
>Survival of the fittest has been established for eons. If your body
>tends croak on second hand smoke, then so be it. If you can't afford
>it, cut it off or unplug it! If you don't like society subtly
>fucking you for profit or control, withdraw, move, change societies,
>or all of the above!
>
>El Patron
>
>
>
>On May 2, 2005, at 2:12 PM, Harry Edwards wrote:
>
>Sorry folks, smoking is a privilege, not a right.  Think public
>health
>when you think of the ban.  It has been proved again and again that
>smoking, first- and second-hand, kills. Would you take seriously an
>ordinance whose punishment was only a slap on the hand? The public
>health issue is largely ignored in the debate over this proposed
>ordinance.
>
>Two good people whom many of you knew, Kit Teele and Jim
>Groenewegen,
>died of lung cancer after many years of smoking. People choose to
>smoke
>and I do not favor taking that choice away. But they can keep their
>smoke out of my air and that's what this ordinance tries to address.
>
>Harry Edwards
>
>On May 2, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Peggy Jennings wrote:
>
>>This morning I heard two sides to the current proposed smoking ban.
>>I understand the dangers of secondary smoke and know a few
>>musicians
>>that
>>have died of lung cancer, too.
>>Smoking ban or not I am not likely to make any live club rich. My
>>bedtime is
>>way too early and my spending is limited.
>>Both commentaries had good points. I am torn on this issue.
>>
>>The thing that gets me is the criminalization and high fines
>>associated with
>>the ban. Fines and punishment apply to both clubs and individuals.
>>It
>>is
>>not just this issue. There are several issues working their way
>>through city
>>commissions that seem to have the same remedy.
>>I am weary of the "there ought to be law and let's make the 
fines
>>high"
>>attitude.
>>
>>Any advise on how to vote???
>>Peggy and Charley
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Harry Edwards" <laughingwolf at EV1.NET>
>>To: <GHETTO2 at LISTS.WHATHELPS.COM>
>>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:37 AM
>>Subject: Fresh Air
>>
>>
>>>Just heard that R. Crumb will be on Fresh Air this afternoon: 3 
pm
>>>on
>>>KUT.        twisty
>>
>




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