HLS and food for thought?
Wayne Johnson
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sun Oct 24 14:00:35 2004
Section 802. That has a nice wring, uh, ring to it. Oh, where are Sinclair
Lewis, George Orwell or Philip K Dick when we most need them?
wgJ
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Subject: HLS and food for thought?
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> Homeland Security
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> What is most frightening to me is the erosion of our rights under the
> constitution. Look at society, and ask the question as to whether we are
> free? The Bush attack on the First Amendment and freedom of speech comes
> to mind right off the bat. And the Homeland Security Act.
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> Section 213: Changes the standards for search warrants to allow "sneak
> and peak" searches in any investigation. Snoop now let you know later.
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> Fourth Amendment, allowing secret U.S. courts to authorize secret searches
> if the government can allege (ALLEGE) a foreign-intelligence rationale.
> Any evidence can now be used in court
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> Section 206" Permits "roving wiretaps," which allows the government to tap
> all phones or computers a suspect might use. Example those in a
> neighborhood church or pool hall.
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> Section 220: Curtails judicial oversight on wiretaps.
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> Section 214: By claiming relevance to a terrorism investigation, the
> government can track your incoming and outgoing calls without a warrant or
> probable cause.
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> Section 216: Allows Internet wiretaps to be used in any criminal
> investigation.
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> Section 215: Without probable cause the FBI can search you personal
> records held by a church, library, bookstore, and etc. with a gag order so
> you do not know it was done.
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> Section 505: Anyone from John Ashcroft down can issue a national security
> letter and get information on you without your knowledge.
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> Section 802: New crime definition "Domestic Terrorism" an illegal act that
> appears to be intended to influence government policy by intimidation or
> coercion. This can be used against environmentalists, anti-abortionists
> and makes any civil disobedience reclassified as an act or terror. A
> football pep rally could fit this definition.
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> Section 806: Judge can seize the assets of alleged domestic terrorists.
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> Then there are others. Do we have the right to trial by jury? Is there a
> right of habeas corpus? Is the argument that executive authority leaves
> no room for a second-guessing by federal courts? Is the incarceration of
> people in Cuba by the U.S. military lawless? Do we still have to abide by
> the Geneva Convention?
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> I think that this might be quite an Imperial way of thinking. We see what
> the Supreme Court has to say on that subject. If Bush wins and he appoints
> his own court we may be in deep doo doo.
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> Do we actually have the right to have extraterritorial prisons?
> Should we have extraterritorial prisons? And should we use these to punish
> extraterritorial crimes? Should the United States government create
> "rights free zones?"
>
> Food for something?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@hotpop.com>
> Sent: Oct 24, 2004 9:32 AM
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> Subject: Bush is right about one thing
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> the Iraqi resistance is surely praying for
> Kerry to win.
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