Misreading of the text

Jon Ford austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sun Sep 12 17:27:39 2004


Igor-- thanks for the fill-in. The only one of the writers of whom you speak 
that I ever read was Edgar Rice Burroughs, author of  some interesting early 
sci-fi and the Tarzan tales ( I got hooked on them in junior high and read 
as many as I could get hold of. The wild west nevver interested me a bit, 
which probably explained why I left Texas after graduating from UT and moved 
to California, which is far west and  kind of a wild place in an 
intellectual and political  way  but not exactly "cowpoke country."

Jon


>From: IgorLoving <lovingigor@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>Subject: Re: Misreading of the text
>Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 08:34:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
>
>Zane Grey was a writer of some merit, he wrote dozens of books, Under 
the Tonto Rim, Riders of the Purple Sage, etc. He was similar to a lot of 
western writers, Max Brand, Louis LaMoore (sic), and so forth. I read most 
of Zane Grey's stuff at UJH, the books were in the library along with all 
those Tarzan books: Tarzan and the Golden Lion, Tarzan and the Jewells of 
Opar, Tarzan and Donald Duck.
>Hopalong Cassidy was another series that comes to mind but I forget the 
writer, short stories in pulp magazines of the era. Western Tales or some 
such. Great illustrations, beautiful ine drawings by John Clymer and Charlie 
Russell etc.
>Ok so much for trivial BS
>Aloha
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dian donnell <meadow@austin.rr.com>
>Sent: Sep 11, 2004 2:26 PM
>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>Subject: Re: Misreading of the text
>
>i think Zane is a really pretty name, for a male or female.  Why would
>anyone not like it?  zane grey maybe, though i didn't know many grade
>school bullies who would have had a clue about wild west writers.
>dian
>On Sep 11, 2004, at 12:57 PM, Jon Ford wrote:
>
> >
> > Wayne--
> >
> > We can only speculate, as Michael does, about why Zane was named 
Zane
> > and how she felt about it. She might have been kidded growing
> > up  having a "macho" name closely associated with pulp 
"Wild West"
> > writer Zane Grey.
> >
> >  Jon
> >
> > >From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh@shentel.net>
> >  >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >  >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> >  >Subject: Re: living East of Gilbert & other things
> >  >Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 13:20:43 -0400
> >  >
> >  >Oh, No!
> >  >
> >  >Not Another Mis-Reading of the Text!
> >  >
> >  >Oh, how horridly hermeneutical, nay disconsolately 
deconstructive
> >  >de-construvedly of me.
> >  >
> >  >Oh, Harold, Harold, save me from the errors of my Childe-ish
> > ways.  (To mix
> >  >a metaphor or five.)
> >  >
> >  >In other words.............oh, shit.
> >  >
> >  >Yours truly
> >  >
> >  >Bubba Bloom (not as in -sbury...not in Leopold)
> >  >----- Original Message -----
> >  >From: "Michael Eisenstadt" 
<michaele@HotPOP.com>
> >  >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> >  >Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:13 PM
> >  >Subject: Re: living East of Gilbert & other things
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > > Wayne,
> >  > >
> >  > > You seem to have read "psychological 
particularity"
> >  > > as though I had written "psychological 
peculiarity,"
> >  > > thus misinterpreting an intentionally neutral 
description
> >  > > as a pejorative.
> >  > >
> >  > > Everyone has her psychological particularity, even
> >  > > you.
> >  > >
> >  > > Thanks again for another of your gratuitous scoldings.
> >  > >
> >  > > Mike
> >  > >
> >  > > ----- Original Message -----
> >  > > From: "Wayne Johnson" 
<cadaobh@shentel.net>
> >  > > To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> >  > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:18 AM
> >  > > Subject: Re: living East of Gilbert & other things
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > > Michael, Michael, Michael
> >  > > >
> >  > > > For a truly smart person, you sometimes fall into 
moments of
> > really
> >  > > bizarre
> >  > > > commentary.  Zane had no, repeat no, 
"psychological
> > particularity" other
> >  > > > than she didn't want to live with a husband who 
had drug/alcohol
> >  >problems
> >  > > > and was increasingly unfaithful.  She is one of 
the kindest and
> > nicest
> >  > > > people I know.  She is, like her former husband, 
one of the few
> > people
> >  > > alive
> >  > > > whom I knew from my earliest days at UT, she 
having been in the
> > Home
> >  > > > Eco/Interior Design department.  She was/is very 
smart, with a
> >  >marvelously
> >  > > > good character (ie. she is a rabid Democrat) and 
had a fine and
> > quite
> >  > > > distinguished career as senior member of the Texas 
Architectural
> >  >Heritage
> >  > > or
> >  > > > Preservation Board (Part of the Park & 
Recreation group,
> > maybe??) or
> >  > > > whatever it's name was, working diligently to 
preserve what
> > little
> >  > > > "archiectural heritage" Texas had 
left...after ignorance, greed
> > and
> >  > > corrupt
> >  > > > planning officials were through with 
"old" things.  Her daughter
> >  >recently
> >  > > > completed her PhD in American Studies at Columbia.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Speculation is fun, but as we all know, only too
> > well,  "beautiful
> >  > > theories"
> >  > > > can be quickly destroyed by "ugly 
facts."
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Hope you all is well.  And I am pleased to help 
"fill-in" our
> > mutual
> >  >"back
> >  > > > story."
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Also, Frieda Miller lived at one time just East of 
us. or two
> > houses
> >  >over
> >  > > > from our Gilbert-centered historical geography.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > wjohnson
> >  > > >
> >  > > > While I am on the topic....and feeling really 
wound up....let
> > me bore
> >  > > > everyone, yet again, with the admonition to not 
forget
> > Fontaine's
> >  >Uncle's
> >  > > > partner in salvaging the San Antonio River from 
the Corps of
> >  > > > Engineers.....Sam Zisman, a man of courage and 
vision and guts,
> > wholly
> >  > > > unlamented by an unknowning (and possibly 
uncaring)
> > populace.  Sam was a
> >  > > > great man and anyone who enjoys (among many 
things) the SA
> > River, owes
> >  >him
> >  > > > and Maury a great debt.
> >  > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >  > > > From: "Michael Eisenstadt" 
<michaele@HotPOP.com>
> >  > > > To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> >  > > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:11 AM
> >  > > > Subject: living East of Gilbert
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > > from: "Wayne Johnson" 
<cadaobh@shentel.net>
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > > > Yes.  You are absolutely right.  We 
lived to the East of
> > Gilbert.
> >  >At
> >  > > > one
> >  > > > > > time Claude Allen lived on the other 
side of
> > Gilbert.  Molly Brown
> >  > > lived
> >  > > > > > behind us I think.  Henry somebody lived 
downstairs...with
> > Molly
> >  > > later?
> >  > > > > At
> >  > > > > > various times Coke Dilworth and Zane 
(when they were
> > married) and
> >  > > Doug,
> >  > > > > > Carol and Nancy Cardinal lived beneath 
us.  I think they
> > were the
> >  > > first
> >  > > > > that
> >  > > > > > we knew of.
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > > Thanks Wayne for listing long lost names. 
Coke & Zane. Zane
> >  > > > > divorced, yes. In her case, her psychological 
particularity,
> > being
> >  > > > > herself I mean, and her odd name, Zane, 
seemed to me ever in a
> >  > > > > kind of antagonism: the oddness of her name 
seemed always on
> >  > > > > the point of overcoming the saliency of her 
psychological
> > selfhood.
> >  > > > > Was she more Zane or more herself apart from 
the name?
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > > They say, rightly, that the past is another 
country.
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >  Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in 
the
> > Back to School Guide! <Zane Grey.jpg>
>
>

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