Wolfy

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Michael,
 I don't consider vocing strong opinions as ranting.  I think you are right 
about a relious/metaphysical way of thinking prevading
in this government's policy making.  At first I thought it was just ignorance 
on Bush's part when he used the word 'crusade' but I am beginning to believe it 
is at the core of how he looks at things.  The Naomi Klein article was very 
interesting to me to read, I think you all have already read it, but it is a 
great indication of how the administration thinks and a great indictment of the 
incompetence of their planning ability.  I don't think W and F and company 
support Israel just because they are jewish, I think it is because they 
sincerely believe it to be the only avenue to stablility in the middle east. My 
fear is that they don't relie on advice from moderate Arabs but they like 
people like chalabi because he reinforces their opinions.  Wolfie was quite 
shaken the only and only time he visited Bagdad and has never been back.  At 
one time he had wanted Bremer's job in Iraq, some of the magazines were calling 
him Wolfowitz of Bagdad.
  carolyn
   
Quoting Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotPOP.com>:

> In advance, I apologize for ranting on on this subject.
> 
> I read The Rise of the Vulcans by Jim Mann. He is a journalist,
> this is his first book, he takes a very just-the-facts approach
> to the Vulcans. He does NOT talk about Bush. It may not be
> easily available to you in Jakarta. It is a long slow plodding
> read but having read it to the end, I feel like I understand
> more about Powell, Chaney, C.Rice, Wolfowitz and Armitage
> and Rumsfeld than I did.
> 
> I apologize to everyone for being such a one note Charlie
> about this, but I feel i should REALLY drive this point home:
> to point to Wolfowitz or to Perle as pushing us the wrong
> way, that is some jew or other is manipulating us again,
> that amounts to demonizing some/all jews and making them
> into an Evil Principle at work in the world.
> 
> This is actually a religious belief at its core, a sort of
> Manichean belief where the Devil is replaced by his
> doppelgaengers Wolfowitz and Perle.
> 
> Wolfowitz does NOT make policy. Read Jim Mann's book.
> Perle is not in government.
> 
> Perle is an out and out crook it turns out. Wolfowitz so
> far as the world knows is a hardworking, uncorrupt in
> his modest personal life and apparently personable
> employee of the State Department. Pointing to Perle
> and Wolfowitz as the causes of anything at all is not
> well considered and not explanatory of important real
> life events. Like I said, read Jim Mann's book.
> 
> I promise no more ranting anytime soon on this subject
> (unless provoked ;-)
> 
> Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <blacky@cbn.net.id>
> Subject: Wolfy
> 
> 
> > Wolfowitz was by far the most successful and popular American
> ambassador
> > to Indonesia, for many years.
> >
> > The one time I spoke to him, I asked him what it wa like as a
> high-profile
> > Jew, in a country which is mostly Muslim (85%+) and does not even
> have
> > diplomatic relations with Israel.
> >
> > He said that the only time he noticed it was when he gave a magazine
> > interview, which touched on most of his personal and professional
> history.
> > He mentioned to the interviewer that he was an American Jew -- and
> that
> > was the one thing that did not make it into the magazine.
> >
> > I found him interesting and articulate. But he's apparently consumed
> with
> > ambition: why else would he play ball with those dopes in the White
> House?
> >
> >
> > BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
> 
> 
> 



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