Response

[Wayne Johnson]

Let it be said once again, for all and any who might be interested, that I
am a firm believer in the idea or concept of Jewish Sovereignty in their
historic homeland.  Just as in this country, there are those who hold
extremely conservative and/or racist views.  It goes without saying that
there must be an incredible test of goodwill and patience for anyone living
in Israel these days to *not* develop a simmering hatred for all things
Arabic or Palestinian.  How would I resist this?  I do not know.
Nevertheless, there are many who do and who try, within the legal means left
to them, to ameliorate the extreme policies of the Likkud and others with a
narrow (and possibly racist) view of Palestinian rights.  This is a sad, sad
situation because they too have a right to a "home land".  Sadder still, in
my opinion, is the way these poor (literally and figuratively) people have
become pawns in Arabic (read oil) politics.  The richers "kingdoms" have
spent next to nothing on these people and that is shameful beyond words.  So
much for "Arab Unity" a phrase, even T.E. Lawrence learned was oxymoronic.

For those with any lingering doubts, I will state yet again my loathing for
all things anti-Semitic.  It is with the gravest sorrow that I learn how
many Jewish patrons and politicians and back-stage manipulators are immersed
in the wretchedly run U.S. State Department.  I am, of course, referring to
Perle and Wolfowitz.  However, in the next breath, it must be noted that
there are a prominent number of African-Americans with equally loathsome
political leanings: Rice, Thomas and Powell.   And so it goes.  Sometimes a
Chinese or Korean spokesperson chimes in with the latest American Facist
cant.  No group is immune from the personal ambitions or greed or poor
character of its citizens....especially when they become "politicians."  The
Kennedy family was roundly hated in Boston, even by other Irish Catholic
Democratic voters because of their heavy-handedness and lust for power.  As
I said, every basket seems to have some bad apples.

Now.  As for Jon's wife, whom I have never met....although Honor and I did
have a brief dinner meeting with Jon once in Palo Alto some years ago,  I
would never wittingly hurt, insult, defame or want to cause her any grief or
embaressment.  (Well, unless she was an ardent Cheney supporter....then????)
Jon is correct in defending her.  I would do the same.  Have done the same.
I wouldn't expect a physical dust-up over anything that passed between Jon
and myself, but should one or the other insult the other's wife, well
then.........a man's got to do what a man should do.

I am pleased that Mike understands my often wierd reactions but then our
mutual wierdness goes back a long way.  It is safe to say, that from time to
time, both of us can be major pains in the ass (pain in the asses?) but that
we have some redeeming qualities.  All of us do.  Jon, whom I have grown to
dislike (for personal grieveances) contributed to one of the SF Bay's best
literary (poetry) ventures.  He can write a damn good poem and many times
his comments and observations are droll, funny and quite on the mark.  I
understand how he can take umbrage with some of the things Gerry says.
Heaven knows, I do too.  Jon thinks I am a Jerk; Gerry thinks I am a Fool.
Fontaine thinks I am some kind of childish gunslinger.  Jeff thought and may
still think that I am a bore or boor.  So it goes.

But gee, all I ever really wanted was to be the Class Clown.

Sigh.

wayneJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: I had told Jim Strong that he was full of it but the expression
seemed so anodyne and unlikely to give offense


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> Jon Ford wrote:
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> > Wayne and Gerry: Since you don't read my posts, I can feel free to call
> you
> > a couple of jerks. Cowards too. If Mike got such an email as he
describes
> > here, insulting his wife, etc., he would clearly have a right to be
upset.
> > The cowards on the Jim Strong list consistently insult Mike behind his
> back,
> > calling him insane, etc. I used to think Mike was a bit rash, but he
> > certainly is no more vicious, belittling, and wacko than you two!
>
> Jon,
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> Thanks for defending me. But I don't think you have ever
> even met Wayne Johnson and may never have met Gerry
> Storm likewise.
>
> Wayne is an old and dear and respectful friend of mine
> and my wife and his fictional "explanations" or spoofs of
> me and other things are consistently amusing. As for
> how heavy handed he has been in speaking of me in
> a forum to which I am not subscribed, I doubt that it is
> much different from the way he writes when he knows
> I will read it.
>
> Jim Baldauf was introduced to ghettoites by Roger.
> Once he forgot himself and was rather nasty about
> me in a spoof posted to agl where I could read it.
> When I wrote to him off list in remonstrance, he
> apologized profusely. So I can well imagine that
> he let's himself go full tilt on Jim Strong's doppelgaenger
> maillist ghetto2. I've met him a few times at reunions
> and face to face he has been unfailingly polite. If
> that's not the case behind my back, well it's a free
> country.
>
> I did not know Gerry very well at all but we were
> fellow patrons of Fletcher Boone's Raw Deal, that
> being the west Sixth street branch of Fletcher's
> bar empire. If he laughs at Wayne's revelation of
> the LEGUME conspiracy, he may well. I did. I don't
> remember him ever taking up cudgels against
> one of my viewpoints on agl. Some subscribers
> gave him a hard enough time so as to drive him
> away for awhile but eventually he came back.
> I miss his vivid descriptions of events in the back
> country in New Mexico which he used to post here,
> I dont miss his advice what diet and drug regimen
> everyone should follow which advice no doubt he is
> dispensing without a license on JSDGMLG2.
>
> I dont know if Gerry has been speaking bad of me
> behind my back. Maybe, maybe not.
>
> As for Jim Strong, Simmons, Ted Samsel, they
> really REALLY do not like me one little bit. Likewise
> Fontaine which I think may have something to do
> with my having been taken to California by her
> mother Terrelita in 1983 and what a trip that was!
>
> And Jon, as for your posts being blocked by
> other subscribers, this may have been threatened
> but it is hard to do with maillists, since your mail
> comes from the maillist's address, not yours.
> Depends on how the maillist is set up.
>
> Mike
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