Eating the Draft Card

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Sat May 22 03:29:07 2004


My dear old retired Air Force colonel father traveled to Fresno several
times while I was in Canada and talked to authorities there. For whatever
reason they dropped the charges and I was able to travel to the US without
getting nabbed. By this time I'd gotten used to life in Vancouver but
after 10 years decided to avoid the Rain Forest Rot and went to work in
Japan.

Ah. Youth in Asia. Never looked back.

Rather, to misquote Gertie Stein, 'there ain't no back to look to.' Though
in truth when I was in the Hill Country in 2001, to visit a dying sister,
I was deeply impressed with what a fabulous place it is. Too bad about all
those bible-beaters though.

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> Byron,
> This is a most touching story. Does your expatriation date back to this
> event, or something else during the Vietnam war era? Wasn't there some
> kind of pardon a decade or two or so ago, to people who left the country
> rather than serve in the military during the war?
> Frances
>
> Byron Black <blacky@cbn.net.id> wrote:
> If I ever get to Vietnam I'll go visit the street named after a student I
> had at Fresno State College in 1967.
>
> I was the 'Campus Coordinator' for the 'Scholarship for Leadership'
> Program
> that US/AID had sold to the California State College system. I lived with
> my
> students, dallied with a few of them (got turned down more than once), and
> was eventually turned against the war... by these same students, sponsored
> by Uncle Sugar to study in the USA so they could go back and be nice
> little
> civil servants for whatever crook was installed as tinpot dictator in
> South
> Vietnam.
>
> Didn't work out that way. I got involved in the Fresno Resistance (David
> Harris, Joan Baez, yada yadda), fired from my Asst. Prof. of Linguistics
> position, and indicted for Destruction of US Govt. Property (I ate my
> draft
> card with catsup on it, at a Resistance Rally).
>
> After I left, five minutes ahead of the FBI, one of my students, also
> turned
> activist, apparently tried to hijack an American 747 out of Saigon, with
> some kind of phony bomb story.
>
> They shot him dead in the aircraft and dumped the body on the runway. Sure
> enough, I got a parcel of the blame for corrupting my good little darkies
> and turning them against the war. I too was long gone from that
> agribusiness
> moron burg so I was a convenient scapegoat.
>
> After the war the Vietnamese canonized my student (Nguyen Tai Binh? not
> sure) as a hero and named a street in Saigon for him.
>
> An exciting era, to be sure, on both sides of the pond. The really sad
> thing
> is that folks in the good ole USA seemed to have forgotten just how boldly
> THE GOVERNMENT LIES TO YOU, OVER AND OVER, AND IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD
> BABY.
>
> Educated Indonesians are puzzled, mystified. I simply shrug and say 'White
> House Xtian Taliban'.
>
> In the words of Malcom X, 'the chickens are coming home to roost'.
>
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> Just thought I'd
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Johnson"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:15 PM
> Subject: Fools rush in...again
>
>
>> You know Igor, I frankly don't give a damn about your experiences.
> Nothing
>> you have written that I have seen suggests that you have developed any
>> sensitivity to anything.
>>
>> I have known a lot of Nam vets who learned a great deal about themselves
> and
>> about command decisions and how the government fucks everyone over. They
>> were/are brave men who cried for their lost comrades and their own lost
>> innocence. I am proud of them and their contribution for what they
> believed
>> was a just and noble cause. That I don't agree with their understanding
> in
>> no fashion belittles or demeans their sacrifice.
>>
>> Glad you don't like Halliburton but the rest of your views just depict a
>> mind that is closed and happy to be that way.
>>
>> As for Andersonville, there were many people who despised this situation
> and
>> railed against it. It was after all "bleeding heart liberals" who were
> the
>> Abolitionist movement. And the Civil Rights movement after that. And the
>> Environmental movement after that. And the Regime Change movement right
>> now.
>>
>> If you can't understand the broader implications of what is going on
>> here
>> and in Iraq, then stick to something you can grapple with like Spider
>> man.
>> And for pity's sake, man, lose those stupid phrases like "bleeding heart
>> liberal". Makes you sound like more of a red-neck moron than you
>> probably
>> are. Find yourself a nice Evangelical Church somewhere and have a good
> roll
>> on the floor.
>>
>> Oh, dear, I have flamed again. Good.
>>
>> wayne johnson
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "IgorLoving"
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:06 PM
>> Subject: RE: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?
>>
>>
>> > War is a tarvesty but it has been with us since forever. If you read
> about
>> prisons you will see that they are all bad. Andersonville didn't have a
>> bunch of bleeding heart liberals crying about treatment. The Japanese
>> treated out men like shit at Batan and no one worte stupid whiney stuff
>> about that. Read about John McCain and his experiences in Hanoi and you
> get
>> the idea. I did two tours in Nam and the last one wasn't much fun. So
>> the
>> babble about our guys kicking ass in the prison is natural stuff. I
>> don't
>> get too excited about it. Americans are the same as evweryone else and
> that
>> is the was revealed. Hah we are just as much a bunch of ass holes as
>> everyone else we just have the dumb ass media looking over our sholders.
> The
>> French I served with in Angola hated the media. The media told what they
>> were doing. We didn't need media to do the job. The job was to make the
>> world safe for Hailburton and we did it well , sort of.
>> >
>> > ----Original Message-----
>> > From: Frances Morey
>> > Sent: May 20, 2004 12:28 AM
>> > To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>> > Subject: RE: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?
>> >
>> >
>> > Wayne,
>> > I don't think I have zip file capability on this computer. The last
>> time
> I
>> tried to open a zip file something wormed into every nook and crany of
>> the
>> stored files with pop-up-poop-nonsense, some 42 screens of it, which I
>> had
>> to delete every time I turned on the machine--so I am wary of them. What
> is
>> the attachment, photo or text? Sounds like a road movie, "The Road to
>> Abu
>> Ghraib," staring Lyndie and her consort.
>> > Frances
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Wed 05/19, Wayne Johnson < cadaobh@shentel.net > wrote:
>> > From: Wayne Johnson [mailto: cadaobh@shentel.net]
>> > To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>> > Cc: strongjim@yahoo.com
>> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 14:47:48 -0400
>> > Subject: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?
>> >
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