My dead student

[Byron Black]

If I ever get to Vietnam I'll go visit the street named after a student I
had at Fresno State College in 1967.

I was the 'Campus Coordinator' for the 'Scholarship for Leadership' Program
that US/AID had sold to the California State College system. I lived with my
students, dallied with a few of them (got turned down more than once), and
was eventually turned against the war... by these same students, sponsored
by Uncle Sugar to study in the USA so they could go back and be nice little
civil servants for whatever crook was installed as tinpot dictator in South
Vietnam.

Didn't work out that way. I got involved in the Fresno Resistance (David
Harris, Joan Baez, yada yadda), fired from my Asst. Prof. of Linguistics
position, and indicted for Destruction of US Govt. Property (I ate my draft
card with catsup on it, at a Resistance Rally).

After I left, five minutes ahead of the FBI, one of my students, also turned
activist, apparently tried to hijack an American 747 out of Saigon, with
some kind of phony bomb story.

They shot him dead in the aircraft and dumped the body on the runway. Sure
enough, I got a parcel of the blame for corrupting my good little darkies
and turning them against the war. I too was long gone from that agribusiness
moron burg so I was a convenient scapegoat.

After the war the Vietnamese canonized my student (Nguyen Tai Binh? not
sure) as a hero and named a street in Saigon for him.

An exciting era, to be sure, on both sides of the pond. The really sad thing
is that folks in the good ole USA seemed to have forgotten just how boldly
THE GOVERNMENT LIES TO YOU, OVER AND OVER, AND IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD BABY.

Educated Indonesians are puzzled, mystified. I simply shrug and say 'White
House Xtian Taliban'.

In the words of Malcom X, 'the chickens are coming home to roost'.

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Just thought I'd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh@shentel.net>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:15 PM
Subject: Fools rush in...again


> You know Igor, I frankly don't give a damn about your experiences.
Nothing
> you have written that I have seen suggests that you have developed any
> sensitivity to anything.
>
> I have known a lot of Nam vets who learned a great deal about themselves
and
> about command decisions and how the government fucks everyone over.  They
> were/are brave men who cried for their lost comrades and their own lost
> innocence.  I am proud of them and their contribution for what they
believed
> was a just and noble cause.  That I don't agree with their understanding
in
> no fashion belittles or demeans their sacrifice.
>
> Glad you don't like Halliburton but the rest of your views just depict a
> mind that is closed and happy to be that way.
>
> As for Andersonville, there were many people who despised this situation
and
> railed against it.  It was after all "bleeding heart liberals" who were
the
> Abolitionist movement.  And the Civil Rights movement after that.  And the
> Environmental movement after that.  And the Regime Change movement right
> now.
>
> If you can't understand the broader implications of what is going on here
> and in Iraq, then stick to something you can grapple with like Spider man.
> And for pity's sake, man, lose those stupid phrases like "bleeding heart
> liberal".  Makes you sound like more of a red-neck moron than you probably
> are.  Find yourself a nice Evangelical Church somewhere and have a good
roll
> on the floor.
>
> Oh, dear, I have flamed again.  Good.
>
> wayne johnson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "IgorLoving" <lovingigor@earthlink.net>
> To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:06 PM
> Subject: RE: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?
>
>
> > War is a tarvesty but it has been with us since forever. If you read
about
> prisons you will see that they are all bad. Andersonville didn't have a
> bunch of bleeding heart liberals crying about treatment. The Japanese
> treated out men like shit at Batan and no one worte stupid whiney stuff
> about that. Read about John McCain and his experiences in Hanoi and you
get
> the idea. I did two tours in Nam and the last one wasn't much fun. So the
> babble about our guys kicking ass in the prison is natural stuff. I don't
> get too excited about it. Americans are the same as evweryone else and
that
> is the was revealed. Hah we are just as much a bunch of ass holes as
> everyone else we just have the dumb ass media looking over our sholders.
The
> French I served with in Angola hated the media. The media told what they
> were doing. We didn't need media to do the job. The job was to make the
> world safe for Hailburton and we did it well , sort of.
> >
> > ----Original Message-----
> > From: Frances Morey <frances_morey@excite.com>
> > Sent: May 20, 2004 12:28 AM
> > To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > Subject: RE: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?
> >
> >
> > Wayne,
> > I don't think I have zip file capability on this computer. The last time
I
> tried to open a zip file something wormed into every nook and crany of the
> stored files with pop-up-poop-nonsense, some 42 screens of it, which I had
> to delete every time I turned on the machine--so I am wary of them. What
is
> the attachment, photo or text? Sounds like a road movie, "The Road to Abu
> Ghraib," staring Lyndie and her consort.
> > Frances
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- On Wed 05/19, Wayne Johnson < cadaobh@shentel.net > wrote:
> > From: Wayne Johnson [mailto: cadaobh@shentel.net]
> > To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >      Cc: strongjim@yahoo.com
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 14:47:48 -0400
> > Subject: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?
> >
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