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Frances Morey
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Wed Mar 31 16:19:47 2004
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Byron,
I remember feeling my skin crawl when I saw a segment on tv about a land mine, one of millions, and they gave us a close up of the opened container--a chip inside was printed with the word Motorola. We have the munitions factory right here in Travis County, Oak Hill.
Frabces
Byron Black <blacky@cbn.net.id> wrote:
I simply meant that when a nuke goes off downtown in an American city, as is generally thought to be a probable case (if not in the near then in the distant future) real estate values will be but a dream. For the half-life of all the trace radioactive elements... say, seventy-five years or so?
Why has no one commented on the fact that the US, as the world's premiere seller of death (arms exports since WWII), often exporting jets and other such frippery to raggedy-ass countries in Latin America, Asia and Africa that don't even feed their people, is simply going to get some of the backlash. What goes around goes around.
The argument is "Well if we didn't sell them napalm and land mines then somebody else would". Funny, that's precisely the line of reasoning taken by dope dealers.
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From: Frances Morey
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Whippersnoopers
What is this about Wayne's real estate investments in downtown Houston? That doesn't sound right--was it just amusing imagery? It would be interesting to hear more about his time in Houston and acquaintance with Roy Hofheinz, but I didn't get the impression that he dabbled in Houston real estate investing.
Frances
Byron Black <blacky@cbn.net.id> wrote:
Wayne, I think the problem is that the defense planners may all be frisky youngish bureaucrats who did not grow up in the good ole "balance of terror" days.
To make it perfectly clear, nukes are not our friends. And just because we happen to have all the cute little suitcases locked up safely in Omaha today doesn't mean some disgruntled McVey won't nick one next Thursday and take off with it.
One of these defense types recently pontificated that (and I love the fancy-dancy language) there would most likely be a "non-test nuclear event in an American city" within the not too distant future. Even a teentsy one (1kt) would make the WTC events seem trivial.
Well, so much for your real estate investments in downtown Houston slum buildings.
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From: Wayne Johnson
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Bunker Buster Bad Boys
Ever read Herman Kahn's On Thermonuclear Warfare or Thinking About the Unthinkable. True today as then.
wj
----- Original Message -----
From: Byron Black
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:34 AM
Subject: Bunker Buster
The image came off the Web, Frances.
The unspeakably stupid shits in Washington are trying their best to create a new generation of pocket-sized, plug-and-play nuclear weapons.
Just what we need at this point in timespace: more tiny loose nukes.
"But they're only another weapon, just like gunpowder or napalm!" they rationalize.
Wrong, as any cursory study of post-WWII history will reveal. Once you cross that firebreak, you open Alice's box. Once you start to nuke the ragheads, no matter how compact and comfy the weapon, you give them free license to return the favor.
And who needs that?
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB (crank, crank, crank)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Morey" <frances_morey@excite.com>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: Innocent Question
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> BBBBBBBBBBB,
> Where did you get this nucuelear tryptic? It is interesting.
> Do you have any memory of The Red Ball at Campus Guild, what it celebrated, who worked on it, how did they decorate, was it live music or records, how many kegs were there, etc.?
> Frances
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> --- On Sun 03/28, Byron Black < blacky@cbn.net.id > wrote:
> From: Byron Black [mailto: blacky@cbn.net.id]
> To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:25:59 +0700
> Subject: Innocent Question
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<DIV>Byron,</DIV>
<DIV>I remember feeling my skin crawl when I saw a segment on tv about a land mine, one of millions, and they gave us a close up of the opened container--a chip inside was printed with the word Motorola. We have the munitions factory right here in Travis County, Oak Hill. </DIV>
<DIV>Frabces<BR><BR><B><I>Byron Black <blacky@cbn.net.id></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I simply meant that when a nuke goes off downtown in an American city, as is generally thought to be a probable case (if not in the near then in the distant future) real estate values will be but a dream. For the half-life of all the trace radioactive elements... say, seventy-five years or so?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why has no one commented on the fact that the US, as the world's premiere seller of death (arms exports since WWII), often exporting jets and other such frippery to raggedy-ass countries in Latin America, Asia and Africa that don't even feed their people, is simply going to get some of the backlash. What goes around goes around.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The argument is "Well if we didn't sell them napalm and land mines then somebody else would". Funny, that's precisely the line of reasoning taken by dope dealers.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=frances_morey@yahoo.com href="mailto:frances_morey@yahoo.com">Frances Morey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net href="mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net">austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:20 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Whippersnoopers</DIV>
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<DIV>What is this about Wayne's real estate investments in downtown Houston? That doesn't sound right--was it just amusing imagery? It would be interesting to hear more about his time in Houston and acquaintance with Roy Hofheinz, but I didn't get the impression that he dabbled in Houston real estate investing.</DIV>
<DIV>Frances<BR><BR><B><I>Byron Black <<A href="mailto:blacky@cbn.net.id">blacky@cbn.net.id</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne, I think the problem is that the defense planners may all be frisky youngish bureaucrats who did not grow up in the good ole "balance of terror" days. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To make it perfectly clear, nukes are not our friends. And just because we happen to have all the cute little suitcases locked up safely in Omaha today doesn't mean some disgruntled McVey won't nick one next Thursday and take off with it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One of these defense types recently pontificated that (and I love the fancy-dancy language) there would most likely be a "non-test nuclear event in an American city" within the not too distant future. Even a teentsy one (1kt) would make the WTC events seem trivial.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well, so much for your real estate investments in downtown Houston slum buildings.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=cadaobh@shentel.net href="mailto:cadaobh@shentel.net">Wayne Johnson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net href="mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net">austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 29, 2004 11:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bunker Buster Bad Boys</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ever read Herman Kahn's On Thermonuclear Warfare or Thinking About the Unthinkable. True today as then.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>wj</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=blacky@cbn.net.id href="mailto:blacky@cbn.net.id">Byron Black</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net href="mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net">austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 29, 2004 9:34 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Bunker Buster</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The image came off the Web, Frances.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The unspeakably stupid shits in Washington are trying their best to create a new generation of pocket-sized, plug-and-play nuclear weapons.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just what we need at this point in timespace: more tiny loose nukes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"But they're only another weapon, just like gunpowder or napalm!" they rationalize.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wrong, as any cursory study of post-WWII history will reveal. Once you cross that firebreak, you open Alice's box. Once you start to nuke the ragheads, no matter how compact and comfy the weapon, you give them free license to return the favor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And who needs that?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><IMG alt="" hspace=0 src="cid:009301c415d9$94850a90$38719eca@byron" align=baseline border=0></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB (crank, crank, crank)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Frances Morey" <</FONT><A href="mailto:frances_morey@excite.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>frances_morey@excite.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net"><FONT face=Arial size=2>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:50 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: RE: Innocent Question</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> <BR>> BBBBBBBBBBB,<BR>> Where did you get this nucuelear tryptic? It is interesting.<BR>> Do you have any memory of The Red Ball at Campus Guild, what it celebrated, who worked on it, how did they decorate, was it live music or records, how many kegs were there, etc.?<BR>> Frances<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- On Sun 03/28, Byron Black < </FONT><A href="mailto:blacky@cbn.net.id"><FONT face=Arial size=2>blacky@cbn.net.id</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2> > wrote:<BR>> From: Byron Black [mailto: </FONT><A href="mailto:blacky@cbn.net.id"><FONT face=Arial size=2>blacky@cbn.net.id</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>]<BR>> To: </FONT><A href="mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net"><FONT face=Arial size=2>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:25:59 +0700<BR>> Subject: Innocent
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