let's try doing it in Houston, being politically sympatico, that is...
Frances Morey
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Tue Mar 30 13:07:26 2004
Ghettz,
I saw Ed Guinn prominently seated in the first row at the Travis County Democratic convention and I had to ask him if he had lost weight or just got a haircut. He laughed and said it was definitely the hair cut. He stayed through the resolutions which ran after 4:00 p.m. when the affair was supposed to be over. I waited around until they announced the at-large delegats to state at the very end, close to 6:00 p.m. I made it, so James Gardner, Fred Seabolt and I may go to Houston together as we three were also chosen at-large delegates.
Frances
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--- On Tue 03/30, Forrest Gunter < fpgunter@hotmail.com > wrote:
From: Forrest Gunter [mailto: fpgunter@hotmail.com]
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:47:18 -0600
Subject: let's try to do in the dirt
All:I'm still trying to get the hang of the new math, or the male itch, the <br>heartbreak of shingles, ED, or three or four other nuisances which my native <br>delicacy precludes my specifying, but I'm pretty sure that Ed Guinn ought to <br>be lumped in, if he wouln't mind being lumped, with the youth corps of 4 or <br>5 friends. I haven't seen my old pal Ed in a while, but it seems like he <br>ought to count for more like 5/3 of a person for his gravity psychical and <br>physical, times 5=3 people at least Goodman Ed ought to vote for and <br>represent.<br><br><br>>From: Harry Edwards <laughingwolf@ev1.net><br>>Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>>Subject: Re: let's try to do nuance<br>>Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:14:42 -0600<br>>MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612)<br>>Received: from pairlist.net ([216.92.1.92]) by mc1-f7.hotmail.com with <br>>Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:16:13 -0800<br>>Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1])by pairlist.net <br>>(Postfix) with ESMTPid 588F8536A5; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:16:13 -0500 (EST)<br>>Received: from smtpout.ev1.net (smtpout.ev1.net [207.44.129.134])by <br>>pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CBD53534for <br>><austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:14:48 -0500 (EST)<br>>Received: from [216.40.234.83] [216.40.234.83] by smtpout.ev1.net with <br>>ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A2A64C39010E; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:14:46 -0600<br>>X-Message-Info: QIy1oIULmHeZ0Z8YVLJR2qGyAfVDCUeR<br>>Delivered-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>>In-Reply-To: <20040327002758.61188.qmail@web14424.mail.yahoo.com><br>>References: <20040327002758.61188.qmail@web14424.mail.yahoo.com><br>>Message-Id: <002D9D50-8023-11D8-95DB-000393A1AAA4@ev1.net><br>>X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612)<br>>Errors-To: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net<br>>X-BeenThere: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>>X-Mailman-Version: 2.0<br>>Precedence: bulk<br>>List-Help: <mailto:austin-ghetto-list-request@pairlist.net?subject=help><br>>List-Post: <mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net><br>>List-Subscribe: <br>><http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/austin-ghetto-list>,<mailto:austin-ghetto-list-request@pairlist.net?subject=subscribe><br>>List-Id: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s <br>><austin-ghetto-list.pairlist.net><br>>List-Unsubscribe: <br>><http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/austin-ghetto-list>,<mailto:austin-ghetto-list-request@pairlist.net?subject=unsubscribe><br>>List-Archive: <http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/austin-ghetto-list/><br>>X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:14:42 -0600<br>>Return-Path: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net<br>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2004 19:16:13.0948 (UTC) <br>>FILETIME=[F890E3C0:01C4142F]<br>><br>>You go girl!<br>><br>>It's obvious who has agenda.<br>><br>>Harry<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>On Mar 26, 2004, at 6:27 PM, Pepi Plowman wrote:<br>><br>>>Jon and Mike,<br>>><br>>>Think what you like. It's obvious you can't read. I<br>>>NEVER said that Israelis are reborn Nazis--my SISTER<br>>>did. And I reiterate--I am not racist, ethnicist or<br>>>otherwise intolerant of anyone, except people who<br>>>can't read.<br>>><br>>>pep<br>>><br>>><br>>>--- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com> wrote:<br>>>>Jon and Pepi too,<br>>>><br>>>>Racial sense is a very complicated issue. For<br>>>>example, I have had<br>>>>4 or 5 black friends in two cities (I am not<br>>>>counting Ed G as I never<br>>>>detected any friendship overtures from him to me<br>>>>poisonally) but there<br>>>>was always a wee tad something short of total ease<br>>>>in these friendships.<br>>>><br>>>>Jews as such, identifiably jewish is got to be a<br>>>>stretch for a non jewish<br>>>>person not to have some sense of racial difference.<br>>>>Or call it a<br>>>>recognizable otherhood.<br>>>><br>>>>Some never get over an imbued childhood sense of<br>>>>this.<br>>>><br>>>>Pepi threw us a bone. Its not only the jews who are<br>>>>the troublemakers<br>>>>disturbing our peace, but their ge
netic cousins the<br>>>>Arabs are doing the<br>>>>same. The fact that they are not genetic cousins<br>>>>doesnt need to enter<br>>>>it. Unlike Bush, I am trying to do nuance.<br>>>>Poisonally I don't have a<br>>>>sense of being a genetic cousin to anyone. Nor does<br>>>>Pepi. Nor do<br>>>>individual Israelis. So what does this all boil down<br>>>>to? Somehow the<br>>>>Plowman sisters drank in some antijew racism in the<br>>>>course of growing<br>>>>up, not unknown even in this country (we all do in<br>>>>one way or another<br>>>>about others) and it shyly peeps out when she speaks<br>>>>as she did<br>>>>about Israelis being reborn Nazis. Fits in neatly<br>>>>with general buddhist<br>>>>beliefs which like Protagoras' ruler are infinitely<br>>>>maleable.<br>>>><br>>>>Even if I know its there a little bit as regards<br>>>>folks "like" me, it<br>>>>doesnt make me like Pepi any the less. I enjoy her<br>>>>and her wit when<br>>>>I see her at the T & D Martinez' or at a party.<br>>>><br>>>>Best,<br>>>><br>>>>Mike<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>__________________________________<br>>>Do you Yahoo!?<br>>>Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.<br>>>http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html<br>>><br>>><br>><br>><br><br>_________________________________________________________________<br>Get tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms – all in one place at MSN Money! <br>http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp<br><br><br>