Reverse racism?
CHARLES LOVING
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Mon Mar 29 09:10:17 2004
A book written in the fifties
> [Original Message]
> From: Pepi Plowman <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
> To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> Date: 3/29/2004 12:28:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Reverse racism?
>
> Jon,
> My incognisance of who Bridey Murphy is denotes my
> cultural deprivation--believe me, I don't waste my
> mind's time thinking about reincarnation. I'm going
> on 60 (well, next year) and whatever I may think about
> it is the result of a lifetime's accumulation of
> experience. My mind is too busy being fed by Mammon,
> and the fears it inspires, to be getting anywhere
> instospective enough to think about such things.
>
> When you say, "Admitting and coping with such feelings
> is better than repressing and denying them," je suis
> d'accord. And my way of coping with them may seem
> strange (I've always wanted to jump right in) to more
> conservative folk, but it worked for me.
> >
> The world is but a stage, and we, players on it!
>
> pep
> --- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Pepi-- Sorry I had a bit of trouble having a "clear
> > read" of your post.
> > Maybe you lost credibility to me with the "past
> > lives" stuff. I totally
> > believe that this is "mumbo jumbo"--the Buddhist
> > ideas on reincarnation can
> > work as a metaphor for enhancing one's Karma on this
> > earth to avoid coming
> > back as a lower form of being in another frame of
> > being, but the literal
> > reincarnation in the Bridey Murphy stuff is just
> > the mind working overtime
> > to create fictional personas. Better to go write a
> > novel, or a series of
> > them! Thus I couldn't quite believe the other
> > strange aspects of your
> > "family story." Well, it's an interesting bit of
> > autobiography, as is the
> > part about being raped and then living with black
> > people in part out of
> > "reverse racism." I can't really judge your response
> > to your rape-- sounds
> > like you were trying to cope in your own way. I hope
> > it worked for you. But
> > did this "reverse racism" really wipe out your
> > anger (I assume you had some
> > negative responses to being raped-- this would seem
> > normal)? My point in my
> > post was that, as Michael E. suggests, a little
> > bit of unconscious racism
> > still hangs around, even if we consciously
> > understand other cultures and
> > ethnic groups and even if we do extreme penance to
> > eradicate the feeling of
> > difference. Admitting and coping with such feelings
> > is better than
> > repressing and denying them.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > >From: Pepi Plowman <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > >Subject: Re: let's try to do nuance
> > >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:28:50 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Jon,
> > >
> > >Sorry my posts are ununderstandable to you--in
> > the
> > >last one, the stories about being burned in the
> > ovens
> > >and being a Buddhist monk are past
> > lifetimes--the part
> > >about my sister and I being born in a prison
> > camp in
> > >the Philippines and her living in Israel for
> > eight
> > >years took place in this lifetime and is no
> > fantasy.
> > >
> > >Insofar as racism and ethnicism is
> > concerned--it's
> > >true, it's available to all, especially if one
> > has no
> > >experience of other cultures. I was raped (and
> > so was
> > >my little sister, Gayle) by black men and I made
> > it a
> > >goal to not become a racist because of it. If
> > >anything as regards black people, I am a reverse
> > >racist, because I esteem so much about them. I
> > hung
> > >out mostly with African Americans when I lived
> > in
> > >Berkeley because I felt more comfortable with
> > them.
> > >
> > >pep
> > >--- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Pepi-- I want you to know that I can read
> > pretty
> > > > well and I tried hard to
> > > > read your last post, but you are so
> > psychic you
> > > > don't seem to know fantasy
> > > > from reality. I can't tell which part of
> > your
> > > > family's bio is
> > > > reincarnation-tales, which is fantasy or
> > weird
> > > > family stories somewhat
> > > > varnished by time,
> > > > which is just sheer crank-talk. But I do
> > know that I
> > > > didn't intend to insult
> > > > you or call you or your sister a racist
> > in my post
> > > > to Mike E. I was talking
> > > > in general of such bunk as "Israelis
> > are
> > > > reincarnated
> > > > Nazis" and where such thoughts evolve
> > from, how they
> > > > are related to other
> > > > thoughts such a false analogy as
> > "Zionism is
> > > > Fascism". I wanted to open the
> > > > discussion into a more general sense of
> > illogic and
> > > > mental infection by
> > > > slogans. On the other hand, the comments
> > Mike
> > > > recently made about the
> > > > difficulty of total acceptance of people
> > of other
> > > > races/cultures rings true.
> > > > There is always a trace of
> > "difference" in our
> > > > dealings with people of other
> > > > cultures and ethnicities; we can suppress
> > these
> > > > feelings and try to be
> > > > totally one with all the world, but in the
> > long run,
> > > > it's better to
> > > > acknowledge the little bit of unconscious
> > racism we
> > > > all carry around in us.
> > > > Acknowledging it won't make it go away,
> > but it may
> > > > prevent it from biting us
> > > > in the butt or coming back to us inr
> > dreams and
> > > > bizarre fantasies about
> > > > reincarnation.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > &gt;From: Pepi Plowman
> > &lt;pepstoil@yahoo.com&gt;
> > > > &gt;Reply-To:
> > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > > &gt;To:
> > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > > &gt;Subject: Re: let's try to do
> > nuance
> > > > &gt;Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:58:22
> > -0800 (PST)
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;Mike, this is getting ridiculous!
> > I really
> > > > can't
> > > > &gt;answer questions that have no
> > basis in any
> > > > knowledge
> > > > &gt;other than a set-in-stone,
> > vituperative point of
> > > > view.
> > > > &gt; So rather than answer your
> > questions, I will
> > > > tell you
> > > > &gt;a little bit about myself and my
> > sisters.
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;First of all, the Plowman girls
> > are all pretty
> > > > &gt;consciously psychic. Which is to
> > say, we are
> > > > privy to
> > > > &gt;circumstances, feelings, vibes,
> > future events,
> > > > AND
> > > > &gt;past ones, by virtue of staying in
> > touch with
> > > > that
> > > > &gt;part of ourselves. It can happen
> > in waking life
> > > > as
> > > > &gt;well as in the dream world. I
> > would think that
> > > > &gt;everyone has this same capacity,
> > but most don't
> > > > access
> > > > &gt;it. With good reason. Sometimes
> > it can be
> > > > scary.
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;Two of my sisters, the one in
> > question, as well
> > > > as
> > > > &gt;another, believe they were burned
> > in the ovens
> > > > as Jews
> > > > &gt;in their lifetime immediately
> > previous to this
> > > > one.
> > > > &gt;I, however, was a Buddhist monk,
> > traveling
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