Reverse racism?
Wayne Johnson
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Mon Mar 29 08:12:27 2004
Pepi, Pepi, Pepi.
You are a mere child of Fifty-something. You can't be expected to have the
collected wisdom that comes from being Sixty or over. Such as Jon and
myself.
Be patient. All will be revealed in subsequent birthdays. It is not widely
known but Fed Express delivers you the Complete Meaning of Life when you
reach sixty.
wj
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: Reverse racism?
> Jon,
> My incognisance of who Bridey Murphy is denotes my
> cultural deprivation--believe me, I don't waste my
> mind's time thinking about reincarnation. I'm going
> on 60 (well, next year) and whatever I may think about
> it is the result of a lifetime's accumulation of
> experience. My mind is too busy being fed by Mammon,
> and the fears it inspires, to be getting anywhere
> instospective enough to think about such things.
>
> When you say, "Admitting and coping with such feelings
> is better than repressing and denying them," je suis
> d'accord. And my way of coping with them may seem
> strange (I've always wanted to jump right in) to more
> conservative folk, but it worked for me.
> >
> The world is but a stage, and we, players on it!
>
> pep
> --- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Pepi-- Sorry I had a bit of trouble having a "clear
> > read" of your post.
> > Maybe you lost credibility to me with the "past
> > lives" stuff. I totally
> > believe that this is "mumbo jumbo"--the Buddhist
> > ideas on reincarnation can
> > work as a metaphor for enhancing one's Karma on this
> > earth to avoid coming
> > back as a lower form of being in another frame of
> > being, but the literal
> > reincarnation in the Bridey Murphy stuff is just
> > the mind working overtime
> > to create fictional personas. Better to go write a
> > novel, or a series of
> > them! Thus I couldn't quite believe the other
> > strange aspects of your
> > "family story." Well, it's an interesting bit of
> > autobiography, as is the
> > part about being raped and then living with black
> > people in part out of
> > "reverse racism." I can't really judge your response
> > to your rape-- sounds
> > like you were trying to cope in your own way. I hope
> > it worked for you. But
> > did this "reverse racism" really wipe out your
> > anger (I assume you had some
> > negative responses to being raped-- this would seem
> > normal)? My point in my
> > post was that, as Michael E. suggests, a little
> > bit of unconscious racism
> > still hangs around, even if we consciously
> > understand other cultures and
> > ethnic groups and even if we do extreme penance to
> > eradicate the feeling of
> > difference. Admitting and coping with such feelings
> > is better than
> > repressing and denying them.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > >From: Pepi Plowman <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > >Subject: Re: let's try to do nuance
> > >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:28:50 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Jon,
> > >
> > >Sorry my posts are ununderstandable to you--in
> > the
> > >last one, the stories about being burned in the
> > ovens
> > >and being a Buddhist monk are past
> > lifetimes--the part
> > >about my sister and I being born in a prison
> > camp in
> > >the Philippines and her living in Israel for
> > eight
> > >years took place in this lifetime and is no
> > fantasy.
> > >
> > >Insofar as racism and ethnicism is
> > concerned--it's
> > >true, it's available to all, especially if one
> > has no
> > >experience of other cultures. I was raped (and
> > so was
> > >my little sister, Gayle) by black men and I made
> > it a
> > >goal to not become a racist because of it. If
> > >anything as regards black people, I am a reverse
> > >racist, because I esteem so much about them. I
> > hung
> > >out mostly with African Americans when I lived
> > in
> > >Berkeley because I felt more comfortable with
> > them.
> > >
> > >pep
> > >--- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Pepi-- I want you to know that I can read
> > pretty
> > > > well and I tried hard to
> > > > read your last post, but you are so
> > psychic you
> > > > don't seem to know fantasy
> > > > from reality. I can't tell which part of
> > your
> > > > family's bio is
> > > > reincarnation-tales, which is fantasy or
> > weird
> > > > family stories somewhat
> > > > varnished by time,
> > > > which is just sheer crank-talk. But I do
> > know that I
> > > > didn't intend to insult
> > > > you or call you or your sister a racist
> > in my post
> > > > to Mike E. I was talking
> > > > in general of such bunk as "Israelis
> > are
> > > > reincarnated
> > > > Nazis" and where such thoughts evolve
> > from, how they
> > > > are related to other
> > > > thoughts such a false analogy as
> > "Zionism is
> > > > Fascism". I wanted to open the
> > > > discussion into a more general sense of
> > illogic and
> > > > mental infection by
> > > > slogans. On the other hand, the comments
> > Mike
> > > > recently made about the
> > > > difficulty of total acceptance of people
> > of other
> > > > races/cultures rings true.
> > > > There is always a trace of
> > "difference" in our
> > > > dealings with people of other
> > > > cultures and ethnicities; we can suppress
> > these
> > > > feelings and try to be
> > > > totally one with all the world, but in the
> > long run,
> > > > it's better to
> > > > acknowledge the little bit of unconscious
> > racism we
> > > > all carry around in us.
> > > > Acknowledging it won't make it go away,
> > but it may
> > > > prevent it from biting us
> > > > in the butt or coming back to us inr
> > dreams and
> > > > bizarre fantasies about
> > > > reincarnation.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > &gt;From: Pepi Plowman
> > &lt;pepstoil@yahoo.com&gt;
> > > > &gt;Reply-To:
> > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > > &gt;To:
> > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > > &gt;Subject: Re: let's try to do
> > nuance
> > > > &gt;Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:58:22
> > -0800 (PST)
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;Mike, this is getting ridiculous!
> > I really
> > > > can't
> > > > &gt;answer questions that have no
> > basis in any
> > > > knowledge
> > > > &gt;other than a set-in-stone,
> > vituperative point of
> > > > view.
> > > > &gt; So rather than answer your
> > questions, I will
> > > > tell you
> > > > &gt;a little bit about myself and my
> > sisters.
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;First of all, the Plowman girls
> > are all pretty
> > > > &gt;consciously psychic. Which is to
> > say, we are
> > > > privy to
> > > > &gt;circumstances, feelings, vibes,
> > future events,
> > > > AND
> > > > &gt;past ones, by virtue of staying in
> > touch with
> > > > that
> > > > &gt;part of ourselves. It can happen
> > in waking life
> > > > as
> > > > &gt;well as in the dream world. I
> > would think that
> > > > &gt;everyone has this same capacity,
> > but most don't
> > > > access
> > > > &gt;it. With good reason. Sometimes
> > it can be
> > > > scary.
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;Two of my sisters, the one in
> > question, as well
> > > > as
> > > > &gt;another, believe they were burned
> > in the ovens
> > > > as Jews
> > > > &gt;in their lifetime immediately
> > previous to this
> > > > one.
> > > > &gt;I, however, was a Buddhist monk,
> > traveling
> === message truncated ===
>
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