Verdict Not Delivered, and neither is baby...
Wayne Johnson
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Tue Mar 16 21:32:43 2004
Hmmm, I dunno. Up where I wuz raised, we used to talk about "horsing
around". Nobody talked about "sheeping around". Nor "girling around" nor
"boying around." Maybe it wuz something in the water.
My first psuedo-sexual experiences was of the "you show me yours and I will
show you mine" variety. Happened to be with a member of the female gender,
humanoid division. Damn I do believe I have forgotten her name. How can
that be? It was only...what?....fifty-nine or sixty years ago. In or near
the closing moments of WWII, as I recall.
Probably after the "Wake Up Call" with Don McNeal (McNeil?).
"Come on you Breakfast Clubbers!......." Jus luved that lil march o' his.
However, this even didn't lead to any long term involvment, but from then on
I was pretty much hooked on the possibilities offered by, uh, girls (aka
women, ladies, et al.)
That my next door neighbor (who will remain safely anonymous) looked almost
exactly like a young version of (the Bergman actress) Bibi Andersen probably
didn't hinder orientation matters. My grandmother was always chasing us out
of the garage where, gee, we were only "practicing medicine."
However, somewhat later one of my best friends in HS was gay. He was a bit
older than I was and although we hung out together a lot, he never made any
moves toward me. Probably knew I would have totally freaked out. Right up
the road from where lived were two Italian sisters, the Valentines (yes,
really.) But they, or one, is another story. Jerry was the first of many
gay friends known and treasured over the years. Many still live.
Bubba
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From: "Frances Morey" <frances_morey@excite.com>
To: <JoeForgy@aol.com>
Cc: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 4:08 PM
Subject: Verdict Not Delivered, and neither is baby...
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> Joe,
> The tract was an amusing allusion to the gay scenario. But just the
etymology of word "orientation" is telling. It sounds like it is as if the
first sexual awakening determines the preferential outcome with genes being
quite beside the point. It is sorta like imprinting I think. What happens
early on determines the lasting outcome.
> Definition of orientation, number 3: change of position by organs,
organelles, or organisims in response to external stimulus...
> Perhaps the connections in the brain orientate when the person has the
first truly satisfying sexual experience, ie. one that won't create a
lifelong responsibility for an offspring by virtue of having made a female
swell up with child.
> Perhaps that first sexual freedom is truly enjoyed by a guy with another
guy as though the pleasure-without-prohibition, filled with "gay" abandon
without a care in the world, (until the emergence of AIDS, of course), was
penultimately pleasurable because no possible strings are attached. I used
to not be able to enjoy sex unless I was drunk, due to early prohibitional
conditioning as a Catholic. Am I a drunkosexual? Or maybe a Catholoasexual?
Could same sex marriage even wipe out homosexuality?
> I still cling to my belief that passing on gender-avoidance genes couldn't
possibly replicate through numerous generations or transmit as an inherited
trait given that avoidance of sexuality with the opposite gender is
definitive of the trait. That's my take on it and I'm sticking to it. It
taint rocket science.
> Frances
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> --- On Sun 03/14, < JoeForgy@aol.com > wrote:
> From: [mailto: JoeForgy@aol.com]
> To: jackso2@juno.com, TracieJackson@aol.com, FIK7731550@aol.com,
frances_morey@EXCITE.COM, JerryandMarty@aol.com, Corajw321@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:47:42 EST
> Subject: Re: Fw: Mail Not Delivered
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> <DIV>In a message dated 3/13/2004 10:52:05 PM Central Standard Time,
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he would have realized<BR>it is a satire on homosexuality...or maybe he did!
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> <DIV>Henry, I know it is satire on sexuality. I think it is very clever
and think many others would appreciate it. However, I do believe most
homosexuals have no choice. It may be genes, I don't know. Of course, there
are exceptions. We must never assume the world consists of total inclusion
or total exclusion categories. To paint with a wide brush is a fallacy.
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