just wars

Jim Baldauf jfbaldauf@prodigy.net
Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:47:24 -0600


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Gary opined:
>If we are at war with any actual state it seems like that state should =
be Saudi Arabia.<

But of course that state won't be Saudi Arabia because of the oil and =
oil deals that=20
Bush/Cheney et. al. are involved with. Though oil and oil deals are =
often just the thing
to assure a war with a country, we have spent too much time and money, =
woven too
many webs of deceit, protecting this particular den of thieves.
jb
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: garychason=20
  To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:07 PM
  Subject: just wars


  It seems to me that the test of a "just" war is simple:   Have you =
been attacked in your own territory?  Are you likely to be attacked =
again?  Are your people - your extended family - in danger?  If we are =
unwilling or unable to defend ourselves then we are too weak to survive =
as a culture, much less as a world leader.
  =20
  As for "America's New War":  it seems to me we are fighting the wrong =
country altogether.  If we are at war with any actual state it seems =
like that state should be Saudi Arabia. =20

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<DIV>Gary opined:</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;If we are at war with any actual state it seems like that state =
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be Saudi Arabia.&lt;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>But of course that state won't be Saudi Arabia because of the=20
oil&nbsp;and&nbsp;oil deals that <BR>Bush/Cheney et. al. are involved =
with.=20
Though oil and oil deals are often just the thing</DIV>
<DIV>to assure a war with a country, we have spent too much time and =
money,=20
woven too</DIV>
<DIV>many webs of deceit, protecting this particular den of =
thieves.</DIV>
<DIV>jb</DIV>
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  <A href=3D"mailto:garychason@bigcity.net"=20
  title=3Dgarychason@bigcity.net>garychason</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> just wars</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>It seems =
to me that the=20
  test of a "just" war is simple:&nbsp;&nbsp; Have you been attacked in =
your own=20
  territory?&nbsp; Are you likely to be attacked again?&nbsp; Are your =
people -=20
  your extended family - in danger?&nbsp; If we are unwilling or unable =
to=20
  defend ourselves then we are too weak to survive as a culture, much =
less as a=20
  world leader.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>As for =
"America's New=20
  War":&nbsp; it seems to me we are fighting the wrong country =
altogether.&nbsp;=20
  If we are at war with any actual state it seems like that state should =
be=20
  Saudi Arabia.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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