Machiavelli 101
Jon Ford
jonmfordster@hotmail.com
Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:26:32 -0700
Well, Bob-- we sure don't have to worry about that being loved too much
stuff-- people hate the United States the world over. Of course, they envy
us too, but that's their problem, the greedy little bastards! Get down, get
down you pigmies-- we are the greatest! Uhh-- watch out---those airplanes
are coming again--- duck!
Jon
>From: "telebob x" <telebob98@hotmail.com>
>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>Subject: Machiavelli 101
>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:17:53 +0000
>
>If the Prince is to hold power then he must know that he must be feared
>rather than loved.
>
>And I quote....
>
>tele
>
>"Concerning Cruelty and Clemency, and Whether it is Better to be Loved than
>Feared
>
>Upon this a question arises: whether it is better to be loved than feared
>or
>feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but,
>because it is difficult to unite them in one person, it is much safer to be
>feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with. Because
>this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle,
>false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours
>entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life, and children, as
>is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches, they
>turn against you. And that prince who, relying entirely on their promises,
>has neglected other precautions, is ruined; because friendships that are
>obtained by payments, and not by nobility or greatness of mind, may indeed
>be earned, but they are not secured, and in time of need cannot be relied
>upon; and men have less scruples in offending one who is beloved than one
>who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing
>to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage;
>but fear preserved you by a dread of punishment which never fails.
>
>Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does
>not win love, he avoids hatred; because he can endure very well being
>feared
>whilst he is not hated, which will always be as long as he abstains from
>the
>property of his citizens and subjects and from their women.
>
>
>
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>
>From: Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince, ed. W. K. Marriott. London: J. M.
>Dent and Sons, 1908, pp. 117-118, 129-131.
>
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