interviews with 5000 middle eastern males
Wayne Johnson
cadaobh2@brgnet.com
Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:30:15 -0500
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Re: interviews with 5000 middle eastern malesBesides, the recent Prez Exec
Order would permit "eavesdropping" on whatever conversations took place,
wouldn't it?
W
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From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On Behalf Of mbuttons
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:55 PM
To: Jon Ford; austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Subject: Re: interviews with 5000 middle eastern males
>The men are allowed to have a lawyer present (I don't know what happens
if they can't afford one-- maybe >they provide a public defender.
Not unless they are citizens.
m-a
on 11/29/2001 2:34 PM, Jon Ford at jonmfordster@hotmail.com wrote:
Mike recently sent out an email on interviews with young middle eastern
men scheduled nationally in the US-- I replied that this smacked of racial
profiling, as many civil liberterians have commented. The FBI has tried to
make these interviews resemble simple information gathering, and they are
supposed to be "voluntary"--yet if a person doesn't comply at all, that
would certainly put one on a "suspicious persons" list. In addition, the
interviews ask that the interviewee turn over frequently-called numbers,
which then can easily go on a "wire tap" list. The men are allowed to have a
lawyer present (I don't know what happens if they can't afford one-- maybe
they provide a public defender. Some states and are currently debating how
far they want to comply with this controversial program. I thought you might
like to see the interview guidelines to judge for yourselves rather you
would find such an interview scary if you were among the 5000:
1.. URL: http://www.cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,319278-412,00.shtml
b..
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