We got a mean mother problem here
Jon Ford
jonmfordster@hotmail.com
Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:57:28 -0800
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<P>Roger-- many thanks for sending us the RAWA site url. Many Americans , including feminists, </P>
<P>have tried to justify.salve their conscience about the attack on Afghanistan by saying we are "liberating" the women there. Here's what the anti-fundamentalist women of RAWA say to that:</P>
<CENTER><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#3333ff size=+3>Taliban should be overthrown by the uprising of Afghan nation<BR></FONT></B></CENTER>
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<P>Again, due to the treason of fundamentalist hangmen, our people have been caught in the claws of the monster of a vast war and destruction.
<P>America, by forming an international coalition against Osama and his Taliban-collaborators and in retaliation for the 11th September terrorist attacks, has launched a vast aggression on our country.
<P>Despite the claim of the US that only military and terrorist bases of the Taliban and Al Qieda will be struck and that its actions would be accurately targeted and proportionate, we have witnessed for the past seven days leaves no doubt that this invasion will shed the blood of numerous women, men, children, young and old of our country.
<P>If until yesterday the US and its allies, without paying the least attention to the fate of democracy in Afghanistan, were supporting the policy of Jehadis-fostering, Osama-fostering and Taliban-fostering, today they are sharpening the dagger of the "Northern Alliance". And because of this policy they have plunged our people into a horrific concern and anxiety in fear of re-experiencing the dreadful happenings of the years of the Jehadis' "emirate".
<P>Afghans, while keeping in mind the tremendous disasters they faced at the hands of Jehadi and Taliban vultures, just hang onto their hope for the return of the ex-king. However, if he comes to the scene while relying on the "Northern Alliance" and so-called "moderate" Taliban, he not only will lose his reputation among the people but it will endanger the stability and success of whatever set-up he forms.
<P>In the time of the Taliban's medievalist domination, no Afghan and no honorable and mindful Muslim will be deceived by the "nationalistic" gestures of Taliban who invite the Afghan people and even the whole Muslim world for "Jehad" against America. Any person, group or government that supports the Taliban, no matter under what pretext, is the enemy of the Afghan people, the people who also hate the "anti-Osama" and "anti-terrorism" acts of the "Northern Alliance" murderers. Our people not only have not forgotten the five years after the collapse of the puppet regime of Najib --the most horrible years of terrorism and unchastity-- but as well they don't forget the time when the Jehadis themselves were the cheap servants of Abdullah Ezam and Osama bin Laden.
<P>Now the "Northern Alliance" groups lie in ambush like hungry wolves so they, while riding the guns of the US, can assault and swarm into Kabul and in proportion to the depth and width of their "conquests", besides committing vandalism like the years before, gain ground in order to bargain for position in the second "emirate", and as a consequence again spoil the aspiration of the people for the establishment of a stable and democratic government acceptable to all.
<P>The continuation of US attacks and the increase in the number of innocent civilian victims not only gives an excuse to the Taliban, but also will cause the empowering of the fundamentalist forces in the region and even in the world.
<P>Our people have two options:
<P>Either the eradication of the plague of Taliban and Al Qieda -though they (our people) didn't have any part in its cultivation and germination- and the establishment of a government based on democratic values, or to hand over Afghanistan to these forces who have dependence, looting, crime and national treason as the main components of their perfidious entity.
<P>Our compatriots, therefore, must rise up for a thorough demolition of Taliban and their Osamas so the world should understand that the tired, wounded, mournful and deserted Afghans not only in word, but practically too, have no connection with the criminals and don't regard a handful of Arab or non-Arab terrorists as "honorable guests".
<P>Only an overall uprising can prevent the repetition and recurrence of the catastrophe that has befallen our country before and with or even without the presence of the UN peace-keeping force this uprising can pave the way for the establishment of an interim government and preparation for elections. We believe that once there is no foreign interference, especially of a fundamentalist type, all ethnic groups of all religions, with no regard to the devilish designs of the fundamentalists, will, prove their solidarity for achieving the most sacred national interests for the sake of a proud and free Afghanistan.
<P>The Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA) asks that all anti-fundamentalist, freedom and democracy-loving and pro-women's rights forces and also the ex-king of Afghanistan, before it is too late, must play their role in the organizing of mass-uprising and as well thwart the plans of the internal and external enemies of Afghanistan.
<P>The peace and justice-loving people of the world will be on the side of the Afghan people. </P></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Roger Baker <RCBAKER@EDEN.INFOHWY.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: We got a mean mother problem here
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:28:08 -0800
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<DIV></DIV>>These here revolutionary women of Afghanistan not only oppose the
<DIV></DIV>>Taliban, they tell the truth more than is either dignified or
<DIV></DIV>>respectable
<DIV></DIV>>-- they are a embaressment!!! -- Roger
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Go here:
<DIV></DIV>>http://rawa.false.net/index.html
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<DIV></DIV>>then scroll down to "recent reports from Afghanistan",
<DIV></DIV>>like the following:
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<DIV></DIV>>http://rawa.false.net/cia-talib.htm
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<DIV></DIV>>'CIA worked with Pak to create Taliban'
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>India Abroad News Service, March 6, 2001
<DIV></DIV>>Sanjay Suri
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>London March 06, 2001 11:40 Hrs (IST) THE CENTRAL Intelligence
<DIV></DIV>>Agency
<DIV></DIV>>(CIA) worked in tandem with Pakistan to create the "monster" that is
<DIV></DIV>>today Afghanistan's ruling Taliban, a leading US expert on South
<DIV></DIV>>Asia
<DIV></DIV>>said here.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>"I warned them that we were creating a monster," Selig Harrison from
<DIV></DIV>>the
<DIV></DIV>>Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars said at the
<DIV></DIV>>conference
<DIV></DIV>>here last week on "Terrorism and Regional Security: Managing the
<DIV></DIV>>Challenges in Asia."
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison said: "The CIA made a historic mistake in encouraging
<DIV></DIV>>Islamic
<DIV></DIV>>groups from all over the world to come to Afghanistan." The US
<DIV></DIV>>provided
<DIV></DIV>>$3 billion for building up these Islamic groups, and it accepted
<DIV></DIV>>Pakistan's demand that they should decide how this money should be
<DIV></DIV>>spent, Harrison said.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison, who spoke before the Taliban assault on the Buddha statues
<DIV></DIV>>was
<DIV></DIV>>launched, told the gathering of security experts that he had
<DIV></DIV>>meetings
<DIV></DIV>>with CIA leaders at the time when Islamic forces were being
<DIV></DIV>>strengthened
<DIV></DIV>>in Afghanistan. "They told me these people were fanatical, and the
<DIV></DIV>>more
<DIV></DIV>>fierce they were the more fiercely they would fight the Soviets," he
<DIV></DIV>>said. "I warned them that we were creating a monster."
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison, who has written five books on Asian affairs and US
<DIV></DIV>>relations
<DIV></DIV>>with Asia, has had extensive contact with the CIA and political
<DIV></DIV>>leaders
<DIV></DIV>>in South Asia. Harrison was a senior associate of the Carnegie
<DIV></DIV>>Endowment
<DIV></DIV>>for International Peace between 1974 and 1996.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison who is now senior fellow with The Century Foundation
<DIV></DIV>>recalled a
<DIV></DIV>>conversation he had with the late Gen Zia-ul Haq of Pakistan. "Gen
<DIV></DIV>>Zia
<DIV></DIV>>spoke to me about expanding Pakistan's sphere of influence to
<DIV></DIV>>control
<DIV></DIV>>Afghanistan, then Uzbekistan and Tajikstan and then Iran and
<DIV></DIV>>Turkey,"
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison said. That design continues, he said. Gen. Mohammed Aziz
<DIV></DIV>>who
<DIV></DIV>>was involved in that Zia plan has been elevated now to a key
<DIV></DIV>>position by
<DIV></DIV>>Chief Executive, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Harrison said.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>The old associations between the intelligence agencies continue,
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison said. "The CIA still has close links with the ISI
<DIV></DIV>>(Pakistan's
<DIV></DIV>>Inter-Services Intelligence)."
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Today that money and those weapons have helped build up the Taliban,
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison said. "The Taliban are not just recruits from 'madrassas'
<DIV></DIV>>(Muslim theological schools) but are on the payroll of the ISI
<DIV></DIV>>(Inter
<DIV></DIV>>Services Intelligence, the intelligence wing of the Pakistani
<DIV></DIV>>government)." The Taliban are now "making a living out of
<DIV></DIV>>terrorism."
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison said the UN Security Council resolution number 1333 calls
<DIV></DIV>>for
<DIV></DIV>>an embargo on arms to the Taliban. "But it is a resolution without
<DIV></DIV>>teeth
<DIV></DIV>>because it does not provide sanctions for non-compliance," he said.
<DIV></DIV>>"The
<DIV></DIV>>US is not backing the Russians who want to give more teeth to the
<DIV></DIV>>resolution."
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Now it is Pakistan that "holds the key to the future of
<DIV></DIV>>Afghanistan,"
<DIV></DIV>>Harrison said. The creation of the Taliban was central to Pakistan's
<DIV></DIV>>"pan-Islamic vision," Harrison said.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>It came after "the CIA made the historic mistake of encouraging
<DIV></DIV>>Islamic
<DIV></DIV>>groups from all over the world to come to Afghanistan," he said. The
<DIV></DIV>>creation of the Taliban had been "actively encouraged by the ISI and
<DIV></DIV>>the
<DIV></DIV>>CIA," he said. "Pakistan has been building up Afghan collaborators
<DIV></DIV>>who
<DIV></DIV>>will sustain Pakistan," he said.
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