why sudden silence?

meadow meadow@austin.rr.com
Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:51:58 -0600


i think roger's the one who's been talking about running out of oil, soon, for
awhile now.
in a geology class i took in '77-8, they taught the boingo year of no mo oil was
2017.  so who, really, is surprised?
today's paper noted many experiments with fuel cell technology.  high frigging
time.
d

Frances Morey wrote:

> It must be startling for Roger, et al, to have to focus on that which is
> happening now instead of the possibility that something will happen
> sometime, maybe, in the next ten generations. Case in point that we may
> eventually run out of oil and not have another technology in place to make
> up for it. Frankly, about whatever happens after the next thirty years, I
> don't give a damn.
> Frances
>
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:14:05 +0000, telebob x wrote:
>
> >  Gee, what has happened to the usual drumbeat of defeat from Roger, Jon,
> et
> >  al ?  Shocking!  The USA did something right again. And not for the wrong
>
> >  reasons either.
> >
> >  tele
> >
> >  Ha ha ha
> >  by
> >  Christopher Hitchens
> >  Wednesday November 14, 2001
> >  The Guardian
> >
> >  There was a time in my life when I did a fair bit of
> >  work for the tempestuous Lucretia Stewart, then editor
> >  of the American Express travel magazine, Departures.
> >  Together, we evolved a harmless satire of the slightly
> >  drivelling style employed by the journalists of
> >  tourism. "Land of Contrasts" was our shorthand for it.
> >  ("Jerusalem: an enthralling blend of old and new."
> >  "South Africa: a harmony in black and white."
> >  "Belfast, where ancient meets modern.") It was as you
> >  can see, no difficult task. I began to notice a few
> >  weeks ago that my enemies in the "peace" movement had
> >  decided to borrow from this tattered style book. The
> >  mantra, especially in the letters to this newspaper,
> >  was: "Afghanistan, where the world's richest country
> >  rains bombs on the world's poorest country."
> >
> >  Poor fools. They should never have tried to beat me at
> >  this game. What about, "Afghanistan, where the world's
> >  most open society confronts the world's most closed
> >  one"? "Where American women pilots kill the men who
> >  enslave women." "Where the world's most indiscriminate
> >  bombers are bombed by the world's most accurate ones."
> >  "Where the largest number of poor people applaud the
> >  bombing of their own regime." I could go on. (I think
> >  number four may need a little work.) But there are
> >  some suggested contrasts for the "doves" to paste into
> >  their scrapbook. Incidentally, when they look at their
> >  scrapbooks they will be able to re-read themselves
> >  saying things like, "The bombing of Kosovo is driving
> >  the Serbs into the arms of Milosevic."
> >
> >  If the silly policy of a Ramadan pause had been
> >  adopted, the citizens of Kabul would have still been
> >  under a regime of medieval cruelty, and their
> >  oppresssors would have been busily regrouping, not
> >  praying. Anyhow, what a damn-fool proposal to start
> >  with. I don't stop insulting the Christian coalition
> >  at Eastertime. Come Yom Kippur I tend to step up my
> >  scornful remarks about Zionism. Whatever happened to
> >  the robust secularism that used to help characterise
> >  the left? And why is it suddenly only the injured
> >  feelings of Muslims that count? A couple of years ago,
> >  the same people were striking pompous attitudes about
> >  the need to avoid offending Serbian and therefore
> >  Russian Orthodox sensitivities. Except that those
> >  sensitive people, or their leaders, were engaged in
> >  putting the Muslims of Europe to the sword...
> >
> >  There's no pleasing some people, but as a charter
> >  supporter of CND I can remember a time when the peace
> >  movement was not an auxiliary to dictators and
> >  aggressors in trouble. Looking at some of the
> >  mind-rotting tripe that comes my way from much of
> >  today's left, I get the impression that they go to bed
> >  saying: what have I done for Saddam Hussein or good
> >  old Slobodan or the Taliban today?
> >
> >  Well, ha ha ha, and yah, boo. It was obvious from the
> >  very start that the United States had no alternative
> >  but to do what it has done. It was also obvious that
> >  defeat was impossible. The Taliban will soon be
> >  history. Al-Qaida will take longer. There will be
> >  other mutants to fight. But if, as the peaceniks like
> >  to moan, more Bin Ladens will spring up to take his
> >  place, I can offer this assurance: should that be the
> >  case, there are many many more who will also spring up
> >  to kill him all over again. And there are more of us
> >  and we are both smarter and nicer, as well as
> >  surprisingly insistent that our culture demands
> >  respect, too.
> >
> >  · Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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