Sexual Rage Post

[Wayne Johnson]

Be aware that there is rally NO "standard Arabic" culture.  Persians are not
like Iraqs.  Turks are not like Lebanese.  Syrians are not like Jordanians.
Saudis are not like Algerians and so forth.  However, there is a grand
tradition of "buggery" in the Turkish culture although anyone who suggested
that these guys were "homosexuals" would likely get their head handed back
to them.  At least as late as the 1950s, early 60s there were "houses" in
Istanbul where one could choose between girls and boys for one's evening
interests.

Also, recall please, that the "Arab" world is heavily characterized, in some
but not all regions,  by its Bedouin/pastoral-nomadic/Tuareg history.  The
8th, 9th, 10th Century citizens of Constantinople and Baghdad were no more
like the denizens of the Arabian peninsula than, uh, New Yawkers are
like...a...Texans.  There I said it.

W

-----Original Message-----
From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On Behalf Of Frances Morey
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 3:29 PM
To: jaxon41; ghetto ghetto
Subject: Re: Sexual Rage Post


Jaxon,
This is the first I hear in explanation of the dynamics that propell the
terrorists into their destructiveness. It is very interesting that a word
for homosexuality does not exist in a culture so repressed that they can do
it without even considering using a word to describe it. It becomes a truly
invisible act that way. Yet the feelings it festers won't disappear.
Frances


On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 16:53:06 -0600, jaxon41 wrote:

>  Something forwarded from Danny Garrett
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "thomas evans" <thomasmevans@yahoo.com>
>  To: <danny709@texas.net>; <syeates@texas.net>; <suzi@nabi.net>;
>  <erussell@texasmonthly.emmis.com>; <slewis10@austin.rr.com>;
>  <deforest@austin.rr.com>
>  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 3:14 PM
>  Subject: The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror
>
>
>  >
>  >  The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror By Jamie
>  >  Glazov Front Page
>  >  Magazine.com, October 4, 2001
>  >
>  >  Jamie Glazov holds a Ph.D. in History with a
>  > specialty in Soviet Studies. He is the author of 15
>  > Tips on How
>  > to be a Good Leftist.
>  > His father, Yuri Glazov, was a Soviet dissident during
>  > the Brezhnev era, who signed the Letter of Twelve,
>  > denouncing Soviet human rights abuses.  His mother,
>  > Marina Glazov, also participated in the dissident
>  > movement in the Soviet Union, actively typing and
>  > circulating Samizdat -the underground political
>  > literature.  To avoid imprisonment, Yuri Glazov took
>  > his family out of the USSR in 1972 and settled in
>  > Canada in 1975, when Jamie was 9.
>  >
>  >    ALL SERIAL KILLERS, almost without exception, are
>  > severely sexually abused as children.  The kind of
>  > people who hijack a plane with innocent people and
>  > drive it into a building with thousands of other
>  > innocent people are related to this phenomenon.
>  >   When sociopaths rape and kill, they do not see their
>  > victims as human beings, but only as objects.  This is
>  > because the sociopaths were themselves, at one time,
>  > used as objects - as their bodily integrity was
>  > repeatedly violated.  The rage that results from
>  > sexual
>  > abuse is one thing, but when combined with living in a
>  > dysfunctional culture of sexual repression and
>  > misogyny, where love is reduced to violent domination,
>  > it is quite another.
>  >   Throughout the Islamic Middle East, men and women
>  > are
>  > taught to be vehemently opposed to pleasure,
>  > especially of the sexual variety. Men are raised not
>  > only forbidden to touch women, but to even look at
>  > them. Sex before marriage is not just a sin -- but a
>  > criminal offense.  It is punishable by a severe
>  > beating at best, and an execution at worst. The sexual
>  > privileges that are
>  > allowed in Islamic cultures are permitted to men.
>  > Women's sexuality and social independence
>  > represent major threats to male supremacy and are
>  > tightly controlled.  Thus, as the Moroccan feminist
>  > Fitna Sabbah reveals in her book Woman in the Muslim
>  > Unconscious, there is a disturbing conflict in the
>  > Middle East between sexual libido and repression.  A
>  > deep-seated fear of, and hostility to, individuality
>  > prevails, and its main expression exists in misogyny.
>  > Socially segregated from women, Arab men succumb to
>  > homosexual behavior. But, interestingly enough,
>  > there is no word for "homosexual" in their culture in
>  > the modern Western sense.  That is because having sex
>  > with boys, or with effeminate men, is seen as a social
>  > norm.  Males serve as available substitutes for
>  > unavailable women.  The male who does the penetrating,
>  > meanwhile, is not emasculated any more than if he had
>  > sex with a wife. The male who is penetrated is
>  > emasculated.  The boy, however, is not, since it is
>  > rationalized that he is not yet a man. In this
>  > culture, males sexually penetrating males becomes a
>  > manifestation of male power, conferring a status of
>  > hyper-masculinity.
>  > It is considered to have nothing to do with
>  > homosexuality. An unmarried man who has sex with boys
>  > is simply doing what men do.
>  >   As the scholar Bruce Dunne has demonstrated, sex in
>  > Islamic societies is not about mutuality between
>  > partners, but about the adult male's achievement of
>  > pleasure through violent domination. There is silence
>  > around this issue. It is the silence that legitimizes
>  > sexual violence against women, such as honor crimes
>  > and
>  > female circumcision.  It is also the silence that
>  > forces
>  > victimized Arab boys into invisibility. Even though
>  > the society does not see their sexual exploitation as
>  > being humiliating, the psychological and emotional
>  > scars that result from their subordination,
>  > powerlessness and humiliation is a given.  Traumatized
>  > by the violation of their dignity and manliness, they
>  > spend the rest of their lives trying to get it back.
>  > The problem is that trying to recover from sexual
>  > abuse,
>  > and to recapture one's own shattered masculinity, is
>  > quite an ordeal in a culture where women are hated and
>  > love is interpreted as hegemonic control.
>  > With women out of touch - and out of sight -- until
>  > marriage, males experience pre-marital sex only in
>  > the confines of being with other males.  Their sexual
>  > outlet mostly includes victimizing younger males -
>  > just the way they were victimized.
>  > In all of these circumstances, the idea of love is
>  > removed from men's understanding of sexuality.  Like
>  > the essence of Arab masculinity, it is reduced to
>  > hurting others by violence.
>  > A gigantic rupture develops between men and women,
>  > where no harmony, affection or equality is allowed to
>  > exist.  In relationships between men, meanwhile,
>  > affection, solidarity and empathy are left out of
>  > the picture.  They threaten the hyper-masculine order.
>  >   It is excruciating to imagine the sexual confusion,
>  > humiliation, and repression that evolve in the
>  > mindsets of males in this culture. But it is no
>  > surprise that many of these males find their only a
>  > venue for gratification in the act of humiliating the
>  > foreign "enemy," whose masculinity must be violated at
>  > all costs - as theirs once was.
>  > Violating the masculinity of the enemy necessitates
>  > the
>  > dishing out of severe violence against him.  In the
>  > recent terrorist strikes, therefore, violence against
>  > Americans served as a
>  > much-needed release of the terrorists' bottled-up
>  > sexual rage. Moreover, it served as a desperate and
>  > pathological testament of the re-masculinization of
>  > their emasculated selves
>  > >
>  > >                See The School for Violence, by Riane
>  > > Eisler.
>  > >
>  >
>
>


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