thousands of murders?

[Jon Ford]

Mike-- I'm not too sure what Laird meant by his comment, which may have been 
just hyperbole.  However,  if I thought it was hyberbole,unpatriotic lies or 
just bull, I would have asked him to show us his sources, and have warned 
him not to make unsupported statements of a factual nature without real 
factual backing. That would be good advice for anyone on the list! I also 
would criticize Laird for bringing in stuff that he is interested in, but 
that doesn't  really follow the thread of our postings. But just to take him 
off the list as you did is to cease all possiility of clarification, leaving 
you with the last word. Our list is not a war where we "execute the 
traitors" by delisting them without going through at least a semblance of 
democratic outreach. You failed to do that, and now are failing to bow  to 
the will of the three to one margin of voting members who reject your 
decision. It's not too late to change your mind! Give it some thought.

Jon


>From: Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com>
>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>Subject: someone said?????
>Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 06:54:57 -0600
>
>StepCher@aol.com wrote:
>
> > while i've found many of laird missive obnoxious, i object to allowing 
>the
> > listmeister to make these decisions for us. it sets a bad precident. on 
>laird
> > i have no opinion. i am thinking more about someone saying he told wali 
>he
> > couldn't come back. wali had hurt me deeply and personally by accusing 
>me of
> > lying but i loved much of what he had to say and miss his whimsey.
>
>I never said a thing about Wali coming or not coming back,
>either to Wali personally or on the list. Who is this someone
>and why is he telling lies about me?
>
>Laird was not eligible to be a subscriber to a-g-l and I
>subscribed him only because Frances Morey and Mary Jane
>Ford sponsered him. There are a few other subscribers who
>were not here in Ghetto Daze but unlike Laird they do not
>rave at us. For example he most recently wrote
>
> > Fortunately, I don't feel threatened.  The only source I can imagine of 
>such
> > an attack against my office is the FBI or SWAT team.  And I am not going 
>to
> > defend myself against a SWAT team or against the FBI.  The thousands of
> > murders by those two groups go generally unpunished and unprosecuted.  
>And
> > they have argued for the morality of their murders.  They have been 
>awarded
> > medals for their murders.  They will never find me fighting against 
>them.
> > They win their "just" attacks.
>
>I hold no particular brief for the FBI but I found it
>unacceptable that the list was being used to make the insane
>claim that the FBI is guilty of thousands of murders.
>Other subscribers were also offended and requested that
>they be unsubscribed. As Oscar Wilde said when he lay
>dying in a cheap Paris hotel, "either this wallpaper or
>I must go."
>


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