Re-Laird

tary owens reddrum@realtime.net
Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:25:32 -0600


All dis is gettin' a bit deep an smelly- Politically I don' find Mr Laird
 Whom I've never met) that far from myself or Mr Baldauf, Mr. Baker or Ms.
Maverick. I believe that most of the horror and tragedy in dis worl is
caused by the murderous hatred and greed of The Zealots of Power, Violence
and Revenge: Christians, Jews And Muslims with a few other religions thrown
in. May We pray that we dont' have to atone for the mass murder, theft,
Slavery and general misery that Americans , Europeans  and Middle-Easterners
have visited on the rest of the world in the name of Jesus, Jehovah and
Allah in the last couple thousand years. Mankind seems to have an internal
self -destruct  mechanism fueled by false pride , jealousy, xenophobia and
hatred that tries to fuck up anything that might help us. I believe that
the nonviolence, Love and forgiveness of Ghandi and  Martin Luther King is
our only prayer. Yes, Virginia (Virgin?) , Mike, Bob and other flag wavers.
the CIA, The FBI and The American military  along with Bin Laden, Milosavich
,the violent Zionists ,the Nazis and the Hutu (among others) are all mass
murderers.  The great reverend Lord Buckley called them Greedheads.In the
words of Joe Zawinal and Cannonball Adderley-------------God (somebody up
there) HAVE MERCY  !!!( on our miserable souls) I've thought about this for
awhile and my answer to Bob's question, Are Pacifists willing to die for the
principle  of nonviolence and peace? I cant' speak for others but I've
looked at Dr. Death in the face  more than once and I would be willing to
trade what I have left for the assurance that it would further the cause of
peace  , justice and nonviolence. I might renege on being afraid but I'd
still be willing to trade, "Do what thou wilt"
----- Original Message ----- Mr. Laird, whether  we give a shit about his
blathering is already one of us ( "Ye Shall Know them by their Blathering")
No one can keep him out. LOVE, Peace and KISSES................... Tary
From: Jim Baldauf <jfbaldauf@prodigy.net>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: Re-Laird


> Who is, after all,  ... "one of us?" One who dares to cite FBI
> misdeeds, or one who calls such information "blathering?" One
> wonders who "is" and who "once was" one of us; the FBI, after
> all, once kept track of "us." And continued to do so, in the case of
> some of "us," throughout the seventies, eighties, nineties and, I'm
> sure, up to the present time. (It's always easier to keep track of
> a Roger Baker or a Jim Baldauf than a Robert Hansen or an
> Osama bin laden.) It turns out, incidently, that Hansen, the FBI
> Traitor, was keeping track of U.S. "radicals" for the Reagan crowd
> and actually had a file on Sissy Farenthold, among others. I'm with
> Fontaine who thinks Laird's posts not "all that extreme", and vote
> to Re-List him as a kindred spirit. (The enemy of my enemy...)
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> I like Bob's earlier post regarding Laird (with the Grand Prize & joint!)
> in which he seems to counsel Mike on tolerance:
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> >Jeezus Mike...what a door greeter you are!  Hey come on in...the water is
> fine. Hey, not so fast pinkboy! Leave the soapbox outside.
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> Isn't this is a forum where we can all yak our heads off, and it makes us
> feel better than just keeping it pent up in our musty heads?
>
> Just give this guy a Grand Prize beer and a joint and sit him in the
corner
> to mutter with Roger and Ewee.
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> After all...this IS the Ghetto.
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> Isn't it?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fontaine Maverick <fontainetx@earthlink.net>
> To: ghetto <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:30 PM
> Subject: de-laird
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> > Don Laird's postings did not seem to me all that extreme. I would have
> > preferred he stay, but not if it had cost us BS. I do have a problem
> > with Mike unilaterally taking him off the list. We have others on the
> > list who are not Ghetto-ites in the strictest sense of the word, so the
> > "he is not one of us" rule doesn't float.
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