Inter-flow delay
Carter Bullard
carter at qosient.com
Wed Mar 26 07:19:40 EDT 2014
Hey Sebas
I had the definitions the other way around...
>>> Is it f2.startime - f1.startime ?? Flow arrival delay
>>> Is it f2.startime - f1.lasttime ?? Interflow idle time
The first one is the flow / transaction arrival time, flow arrival delay, first derivative of the flow start time(s). ( 1 / mean(flow arrival time) ) is the transaction arrival rate. This is a very big metric.
The interflow idle time, (f2.startime - f1.endtime) is an important occupancy metric, as it helps to describe a specific flows cache demand, and general network demand.
Carter
> On Mar 26, 2014, at 5:13 AM, el draco <eldraco at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yes I'm also using f2.starttime - f1.starttime too.
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> However, if you implement this, I'm not sure if the name for this metric should be Interflow Idle time, because it includes the first flow completely, right?
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> So f2.starttime - f1.endtime = Flow arrival delay, or time between the end of the first flow and the start of the second. No data on the network.
> And f2.starttime - f1.starttime = Includes the duration of the first flow plus the flow arrival delay. For a moment there is data on the network. Not sure if Interflow idle time is correct here. Maybe "Interflow start time"?
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> thanks
> sebas
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>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Rahimeh Khodadadi <rahimeh.khodadadi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Carter and Sebas,
>>
>> Thanks for your response, yes I did this work by f2.startime - f1.startime.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>> Rahimeh
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>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Carter Bullard <carter at qosient.com> wrote:
>>> Hey Rahimeh and Sebas,
>>> What is the definition of this metric ???
>>>
>>> Is it f2.startime - f1.startime ?? Flow arrival delay
>>> Is it f2.startime - f1.lasttime ?? Interflow idle time
>>>
>>> We have these abstractions in the jitter aggregation methods,
>>> so it wouldn’t be hard to do, but it will have to be after
>>> 3.0.8. As Sebas indicates, its easy to calculate these
>>> outside argus.
>>>
>>> Carter
>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:10 AM, el draco <eldraco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rahimeh, sorry for the delay.
>>>> As far as I know there is no support in Argus yet for inter-flow timing. However, it should be possible to do it if you cluster the flows with racluster.
>>>> Some time ago we discussed about this here.
>>>> I also need that information and I'm processing the argus output with a custom python program to get this data.
>>>>
>>>> sebas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Rahimeh Khodadadi <rahimeh.khodadadi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question, can I get inter-flow delay for every flow of every ip addresses in Argus?
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be glad, if you help me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>
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