[ARGUS] Best Hardware

slif at bellsouth.net slif at bellsouth.net
Mon Oct 11 23:40:25 EDT 2004


Does anyone have a sanitized tcpdumps that they are willing to share ?
I'd like to run some load/time trials through tcpreplay to see if my sensors
can bear the traffic without loss.
TIA
-Mike Slifcak

> 
> From: Peter Van Epp <vanepp at sfu.ca>
> Date: 2004/10/11 Mon PM 10:37:15 EDT
> To: argus-info at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> Subject: Re: [ARGUS] Best Hardware
> 
> 	Sounds some what similar to where I am. Our commodity link (one of the
> 4 argus instances now running) does around 60 to 80 megs compressed per hour.
> Each hour they get post processed (on a box separate from both the sensor and
> archiving boxes) and at 6 AM (other than this morning :-)) get summarized for
> the last 24 hours. The main problem for me is memory (currently 750 Megs which
> maxes out the motherboard on a P3 600) as it sometimes starts swapping and 
> gets very slow. While I have a pair of dual athelon 1.4 gig SMP boxes, both 
> are currently being gigabit sensors and the archive and post processing hosts 
> are both P3 600s. Likely the most useful thing I can do is take a ugly one 
> (such as last night at 22:00) and run it through on all the machines I have 
> here and timing it (22:00 seem to be port scan time our way :-)):
> 
> -rw-r--r--  1 argus  argus  62153949 Oct 10 22:02 com_argus.2004.10.10.21.00.00.0.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 argus  argus  87990295 Oct 10 23:03 com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 argus  argus  67225107 Oct 11 00:02 com_argus.2004.10.10.23.00.00.0.gz
> 	A quick test indicates it more depends on disk speed than CPU :-) so
> a raid controller may be more of a factor than CPU since performance is about
> the same on each machine (by wall clock times anyway).
> 
> P3 600mhz 750 megs of RAM:
> 
> test6% time ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn >/dev/null
> 150.437u 48.115s 3:19.11 99.7%  222+1302k 0+0io 0pf+0w
> 
> test6% time ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn > /usr/local/t
> 153.730u 67.459s 3:42.35 99.4%  224+1325k 2+1901io 0pf+0w
> test6% ls -l /usr/local/t
> -rw-r--r--  1 vanepp  wheel  249200362 Oct 11 19:19 /usr/local/t
> 
> test6% time ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn host 142.58.200.82  >/dev/null
> 40.572u 28.910s 1:09.62 99.7%   208+1209k 0+0io 0pf+0w
> 
> test6% time ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn host 142.58.200.82 > ./t
> 41.139u 29.120s 1:10.43 99.7%   208+1227k 0+55io 0pf+0w
> 
> SMP 1.4 Gig Athelon machine 500 Megs of ram, both with 7200 RPM IDE disk.
> 
> %time ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn > /dev/null
> 34.810u 47.074s 1:21.81 100.0%  213+1304k 1+0io 0pf+0w
> 
> %time ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn > /usr/local/t
> 36.880u 56.285s 1:33.12 100.0%  214+1324k 0+1901io 0pf+0w
> %ls -l /usr/local/t
> -rw-r--r--  1 vanepp  wheel  249200362 Oct 11 19:15 /usr/local/t
> 
> %time ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn host 142.58.200.82 > /dev/null
> 5.944u 28.070s 0:33.90 100.3%   205+1242k 0+0io 0pf+0w
> 
> %time ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn host 142.58.200.82 > ./t
> 6.039u 28.347s 0:34.26 100.3%   205+1262k 0+54io 0pf+0w
> 
> 	An older Mac G4 (533 mhz?) 1.5 gigs of ram IDE disk:
> 
> [test4:~] vanepp% time /usr/local/bin/ra  -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn >/dev/null
> 156.000u 150.690s 5:46.06 88.6% 0+0k 0+2io 0pf+0w
> 
> 	Which is a fair bit slower at post processing that the PCs (a new G5
> may do better). This is similar to previous times I've done this, a 600 Meg
> PC with less memory seems to do better on post processing (capture may be a
> different matter though).
> 
> 	A few pses on the SMP machine indicates it is probably only using one
> CPU (which was at %97) arguing against SMP as well (this is on FreeBSD 4.10 ):
> 
> USER     PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED      TIME COMMAND
> vanepp 24462 87.7  0.3  2084 1492  p0  R+    7:19PM   0:07.04 ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn
> vanepp 24465  6.7  0.0   608  248  p0  S+    7:19PM   0:00.63 gzip -dc com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz
> vanepp 24448  0.0  0.2  1320  956  p1  Ss    7:18PM   0:00.01 -csh (csh)
> 
> USER     PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED      TIME COMMAND
> vanepp 24462 91.9  0.3  2084 1492  p0  R+    7:19PM   0:37.26 ra -r com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz -nn
> vanepp 24465  5.9  0.0   608  248  p0  S+    7:19PM   0:02.81 gzip -dc com_argus.2004.10.10.22.00.00.0.gz
> vanepp 24448  0.0  0.2  1320  956  p1  Ss    7:18PM   0:00.01 -csh (csh)
> 
> Peter Van Epp / Operations and Technical Support 
> Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 08:57:02AM +1000, Andrew Hall wrote:
> > 
> > I am looking for the best hardware for the following;
> > 
> > - dedicated box for running multiple (>100) different ra queries over 1GB
> > compressed argus files each day
> > 
> > - This host will not be running argus captures itself.
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > On 12/10/04 8:36 AM, "Steve McInerney" <spm at healthinsite.gov.au> wrote:
> > 
> > > "Best" is a somewhat loaded term. :-)
> > > Best for what? How much data? How much money? How fast are the results
> > > needed etc etc etc
> > > 
> > >  From previous comments (Carter's and Peter Van Epp's???), I understand
> > > that Mac platforms make excellent argus capture boxen. Something about
> > > the endian being the right way, from memory. That discussion should be
> > > in the archives in the last 12 months or so.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I stopped using argus on my Solaris boxes a while ago; wasn't as stable
> > > as x86/linux and they were waaaay overworked as is - which may have
> > > influenced the first problem too.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In our case, the work is currently done on a 1Ghz P3 - but then we don't
> > > have a lot of data, and how long it takes is largely irrelevant.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sorry to be so vague...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > - Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Andrew Hall wrote:
> > >> What hardware do people recommend for the best crunching of argus files with
> > >> the various argus clients, in particular ra and racount?
> > >> 
> > >> Intel, AMD, Sparc ??
> > >> 
> > >> Do these clients make use of an SMP machine (assuming the box is dedicated
> > >> to log analysis)?
> > >> 
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> 
> > >> Andrew
> > >> 
> > >> 
> 




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